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MMD3
May 16, 2006

Montmartre -> Portland

hifi posted:

Is this over gigabit ethernet?

no, not over gigabit currently. I'm about to move into a new house which will all be wired with Cat6 & gigabit switches though.


Flipperwaldt posted:

AFAIK it will generate thumbnails if a) you're using the Photo Station package and b) the pictures are in a common web viewable filetype like jpg, png, gif or bmp. The thumbnails would serve to save bandwidth and speed up the use of the Photo Station package and nothing else as far as I'm aware. EDIT So if Lightroom creates jpg previews, Photo Station will create its own, smaller jpg previews from that. If you have no use for Photo Station, just don't install it/disable it/uninstall it.

You can check for yourself. There's a resource monitor thingy that has a processes tab on it. The thumbnail creation process has a name that starts with thumb. Another heavy process is Photo Station's face recognition, but that isn't on by default.


And yeah, plugging in the drive directly is preferred, also because you have to babysit it less, so it's more ok if it should still take a long time.

How I have my photos configured currently I have a folder in my photo folder which is called "Processed photos" and that's where all of the jpeg versions of my edited selects live. If I'm going to use Photo Station for anything it would just be that folder. Is there any way to just point photo station to a single folder within your Photos folder? I'll play around with that a bit tonight.

This Synology is just so much more full-featured than my Drobo was that there's a ton to learn. Everything I figure out makes me more excited about it though.

Legdiian
Jul 14, 2004


MMD3 posted:

no, not over gigabit currently. I'm about to move into a new house which will all be wired with Cat6 & gigabit switches though.

That(~11MB/s) is that max speed you will see over a 100mbit connection.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



MMD3 posted:

How I have my photos configured currently I have a folder in my photo folder which is called "Processed photos" and that's where all of the jpeg versions of my edited selects live. If I'm going to use Photo Station for anything it would just be that folder. Is there any way to just point photo station to a single folder within your Photos folder? I'll play around with that a bit tonight.
Forgot to say that, but yeah, Photo Station is only going to do that for the folders that were assigned to it.

Also I'm not sure the thumbnail generation would be much of a problem on the processor you've got in that thing. It's hugely annoying on my 112j, but that's just got a lousy ARM processor. It was just an idea for a potential bottleneck.

MMD3
May 16, 2006

Montmartre -> Portland

Legdiian posted:

That(~11MB/s) is that max speed you will see over a 100mbit connection.

yeah, I suppose that's actually the cap for 100mbit eh... I'm an idiot.

EPICAC
Mar 23, 2001



I'm looking for recommendations for wireless NAS/USB RAID enclosures. My laptop's HD is filling up, so I want to get some redundant external storage. I was thinking of a 2X4TB RAID 1 setup to start with. I would primarily use it for storing things that I wouldn't be accessing that frequently (old camera raw files, and a bunch of work related data).

My job gives me an allowance for insurance/travel/equipment, and I'm fully paid up on insurance for the year leaving me with $460, though I'm willing to go over that amount somewhat. I'd be accessing these from my laptop, a Mac running 10.9.

Any recommendations?

eightysixed
Sep 23, 2004

I always tell the truth. Even when I lie.


MMD3 posted:

yeah, I suppose that's actually the cap for 100mbit eh... I'm an idiot.

You'll get great speeds if you plug it directly into the DiskStation.

bizwank
Oct 4, 2002



MMD3 posted:

okay, I mapped my individual media folders and now they show up and are browsable through explorer.
I still don't understand what you did to not just have them show up like this, I didn't have to manually map anything:

bizwank fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Apr 4, 2014

fletcher
Jun 27, 2003

ken park is my favorite movie

Cybernetic Crumb

What is it about WD Purple drives that make them unsuitable for a NAS environment?

MMD3
May 16, 2006

Montmartre -> Portland

bizwank posted:

I still don't understand what you did to not just have them show up like this, I didn't have to manually map anything:





dammit, that's what I wanted

well, I've mapped the folders now and they just show up loosely underneath Network. It works but it'd certainly be ideal if I could collapse the whole volume.

MMD3
May 16, 2006

Montmartre -> Portland

eightysixed posted:

You'll get great speeds if you plug it directly into the DiskStation.

yeah, did this and copied 1.5TB overnight and another 1TB this morning. MUCH faster.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell



I've got a drive that sometimes becomes "UNAVAILABLE" during a ZFS scrub.

zpool status shows 3 CKSUM errors and no READ/WRITE errors. The CKSUM error increments when the drive goes UNAVAILABLE during a scrub.

I don't think the SMART attributes show anything out of the ordinary:

code:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   200   200   051    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   176   176   021    Pre-fail  Always       -       6183
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       44
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   083   083   000    Old_age   Always       -       12503
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       44
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       27
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       16
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   119   107   000    Old_age   Always       -       31
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0008   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
Any ideas about what's going on here?

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Bad SATA cable? Is it a WD Green or similar drive without TLER?

BobHoward
Feb 13, 2012

The only thing white people deserve is a bullet to their empty skull


If it was a bad SATA cable, he'd have non-zero UDMA_CRC_Error_Count.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell



IOwnCalculus posted:

Bad SATA cable? Is it a WD Green or similar drive without TLER?

I would have sworn this was a Red, but looking up the model# it's a Green. I don't have any problems with the other couple of Green's I have in the same array, though.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003



Muldoon

What's the model string?

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell



Star War Sex Parrot posted:

What's the model string?

WDC WD30EZRX-00DC0B0

I now have (during a scrub) two of these drives showing a state of REMOVED (yay raidz2). First time that has ever happened.

A simple reboot brought them back.

Thermopyle fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Apr 6, 2014

Sagacity
May 2, 2003
Hopefully my epitaph will be funnier than my custom title.

When I built a NAS using WD Reds a while ago, I also got a WD Green (WD20NPVX) for use in my desktop PC. Had it up and running for six weeks and it's already making horrible scratching noises and giving SMART errors. Sigh.

Time for a Hitachi Ultrastar, I guess.

LRADIKAL
Jun 10, 2001

A Very Useful Person



Fun Shoe

There should be big blinking text in the OP explaining that just because you have had bad luck with a hard disk manufacturer does not mean that something is going wrong with that manufacturer. People keep coming in here posting anecdotal shit about how up to TWO hard drives of the same brand have failed on them and therefore they are switching!

Sagacity
May 2, 2003
Hopefully my epitaph will be funnier than my custom title.

Well, the WD Reds are still working fine... and everything was backed up, so nothing was lost. If I'd avoid brands that crashed on me before I don't think I would have any options left. But I looked at that Backblaze review and figured: Why not try another brand?

Geemer
Nov 4, 2010

What is it with Japan and ridiculous hair colors?



Buglord

I just got an update for my Synology DiskStation 212j to fix the Heartbleed thing. Might be a good idea for other Synology users to make sure they got the update as well.

And of course other brand NAS users should probably see if theirs got updates too.

bizwank
Oct 4, 2002



And FYI, if you haven't updated to DSM 5 like me, you can get the 4.3-3827 Update 1 patch here: http://ukdl.synology.com/download/criticalupdate/3827/ (make sure you choose the right model).

Or just change your DSM update settings to "important updates only" and it will do it for you.

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002



Xpenology doesn't get these same kind of updates, right?

fletcher
Jun 27, 2003

ken park is my favorite movie

Cybernetic Crumb

Got a friend that is considering getting a Synology or a QNAP. They both seem like really nice units with fairly similar specs, seems like you can't go wrong with either. How is their customer support?

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.


ShaneB posted:

Xpenology doesn't get these same kind of updates, right?

Xpenology can do point updates. So it could do the last round of 4.3 that were like update 1 2 3 and 4. To do the latest 4.3 or 5 you gotta reinstall (but you can keep your data). I havn't done it yet but there is info on the xpenology site.

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002



Don Lapre posted:

Xpenology can do point updates. So it could do the last round of 4.3 that were like update 1 2 3 and 4. To do the latest 4.3 or 5 you gotta reinstall (but you can keep your data). I havn't done it yet but there is info on the xpenology site.

But I mean you have to wait on them to come out and then do them, you don't get the same kind of updates that "real" Synology gets, right?

Viper_3000
Apr 26, 2005

I could give a shit about all that.

I have an old Core2Duo box I'd like to turn into a NAS/Media server. Primary use would be Plex (w/transcoding)/Usenet/Torrents/Storage. It's LGA775, so it can't take ECC memory, which from my research says ZFS and FreeNAS are out, which sucks because they seem like the best/easiest way to do what I want to do. What's the next best OS for the sort of thing I want to do? I've read a little about Xpenology, which seems like it could go either way, but I'm unsure if that's really the best option. Any suggestions?

Lilleput
Jul 22, 2006



Does anyone know of a proper FTP client for a Synology NAS? I know Download Station can download from a FTP, but something like FileZilla Synology Edition would be much easier to work with. Right now i copy links from FileZilla on my PC and paste them into Download Station..

phosdex
Dec 16, 2005



Tortured By Flan

Viper_3000 posted:

I have an old Core2Duo box I'd like to turn into a NAS/Media server. Primary use would be Plex (w/transcoding)/Usenet/Torrents/Storage. It's LGA775, so it can't take ECC memory, which from my research says ZFS and FreeNAS are out, which sucks because they seem like the best/easiest way to do what I want to do. What's the next best OS for the sort of thing I want to do? I've read a little about Xpenology, which seems like it could go either way, but I'm unsure if that's really the best option. Any suggestions?

iSCSI doesn't work apparently in Xpenology if that bothers you. Could try Nas4Free.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell



Viper_3000 posted:

I have an old Core2Duo box I'd like to turn into a NAS/Media server. Primary use would be Plex (w/transcoding)/Usenet/Torrents/Storage. It's LGA775, so it can't take ECC memory, which from my research says ZFS and FreeNAS are out, which sucks because they seem like the best/easiest way to do what I want to do. What's the next best OS for the sort of thing I want to do? I've read a little about Xpenology, which seems like it could go either way, but I'm unsure if that's really the best option. Any suggestions?

If your data consists of usenet/torrents stuff, I'd say you're fine without ECC.

bizwank
Oct 4, 2002



Lilleput posted:

Does anyone know of a proper FTP client for a Synology NAS? I know Download Station can download from a FTP, but something like FileZilla Synology Edition would be much easier to work with. Right now i copy links from FileZilla on my PC and paste them into Download Station..
Well you could just mount your FS as the local directory in FileZilla, but if you want it all running on the FS there's some options discussed here: http://forum.synology.com/enu/viewt...hp?f=15&t=69371

Edit: Also this: http://www.phpwebftp.com/

Heners_UK
Jun 1, 2002


Viper_3000 posted:

I have an old Core2Duo box I'd like to turn into a NAS/Media server. Primary use would be Plex (w/transcoding)/Usenet/Torrents/Storage.

I ended up using Xubuntu for this. I found it useful to be able to VNC/TeamViewer into a desktop environment for some things. Although I expect to burned at the stake for saying so.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams


I'm thinking when 14.04 LTS comes out that I'm going to reinstall my Solaris 11 Express server with Ubuntu and use ZFS on linux. Thermopyle, you've been doing that for a while, right? Any problems? I've kept my pool at v28 so I'm ready to make the jump. I'm just dying with what an abomination of an OS Solaris is...

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell



After exporting the containing pool, I unplugged four drives from a cheap SATA adapter and plugged them in to an IBM M1015.

When I look in /dev/disks/by-id the drive ID's are listed right there, but zpool import shows that the pool is un-importable because those four drives have a status of UNAVAILABLE.

If I replug everything back the way it was, using the cheap SATA card, everything is fine.

Is it possible that /dev/disks/by-id is wrong and is somehow showing some sort of cached data and the drives aren't actually available?

If not, how do I get ZFS to see that the drives are there?

As mentioned earlier in the thread, I just recently moved all the drives into a new system and ZFS had no problem just working after doing that.

(Using ZFS on linux. Ubuntu 12.04)


FISHMANPET posted:

I'm thinking when 14.04 LTS comes out that I'm going to reinstall my Solaris 11 Express server with Ubuntu and use ZFS on linux. Thermopyle, you've been doing that for a while, right? Any problems? I've kept my pool at v28 so I'm ready to make the jump. I'm just dying with what an abomination of an OS Solaris is...

Well, up until this point it's been perfect. I suspect my current problem is a problem with me and not ZFS on linux.

deimos
Nov 30, 2006

Forget it man this bat is whack, it's got poobrain!


Thermopyle posted:

After exporting the containing pool, I unplugged four drives from a cheap SATA adapter and plugged them in to an IBM M1015.

When I look in /dev/disks/by-id the drive ID's are listed right there, but zpool import shows that the pool is un-importable because those four drives have a status of UNAVAILABLE.

If I replug everything back the way it was, using the cheap SATA card, everything is fine.

Is it possible that /dev/disks/by-id is wrong and is somehow showing some sort of cached data and the drives aren't actually available?

If not, how do I get ZFS to see that the drives are there?

As mentioned earlier in the thread, I just recently moved all the drives into a new system and ZFS had no problem just working after doing that.

(Using ZFS on linux. Ubuntu 12.04)


Do an LS /dev/disks/by-id of both and post here. Other than that zfs import should fix it.

e: it could be a /etc/zfs/zpool.cache issue.

deimos fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Apr 11, 2014

Tsuru
May 12, 2008


FISHMANPET posted:

I'm thinking when 14.04 LTS comes out that I'm going to reinstall my Solaris 11 Express server with Ubuntu and use ZFS on linux. Thermopyle, you've been doing that for a while, right? Any problems? I've kept my pool at v28 so I'm ready to make the jump. I'm just dying with what an abomination of an OS Solaris is...
I have been using ZFS-on-linux on CentOS 6.5 for nearly two years now after seeing my mdadm array destroying data by silent corruption and it's been awesome so far, in fact it's the most robust storage system I have ever had the privilege of using. Thanks to ZFS my data survived a multitude of fuckups on my part, a trashed OS disk and multiple shitty SATA/HBA controllers as I posted earlier. It's very highly recommended. Also no problems at all upgrading to the latest v5000.

I am looking to upgrade though: I currently run my server on an old Core2Duo (775) which is limited by 2GB of non-ECC RAM and SATA I. What would be a good SuperMicro mainboard for storage to start with? I am looking for 8Gb ECC minimum, with as many onboard SATA II/III ports as possible, onboard VGA and at least one PCI-e x16 slot for my HBA. I lean towards SuperMicro since our equipment at work uses these, albeit for a different purpose (graphics). I am a bit lost as there are so many different types to choose from.

e: Perfect, thank you! ----vvv

Tsuru fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Apr 13, 2014

yomisei
Mar 18, 2011


If you want a Supermicro board with an internal SAS controller take a look at the Supermicro X10SL7-F, it comes with a LSI SAS2308.

beepsandboops
Jan 28, 2014


Looking for some general NAS advice. I have two needs: a target for my Plex server / a Plex server, and a backup for both OS X and Windows. I was thinking two storage pools: JBOD for the Plex stuff (easily replaceable media), and RAID 1 for the personal stuff (some pictures, documents, etc.). I'm guessing that the best way to do this is either a homemade FreeNAS box or a four bay Synology/Qnap box. Does this seem like a good approach, or is there a better way to do this?

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell



deimos posted:

Do an LS /dev/disks/by-id of both and post here. Other than that zfs import should fix it.

e: it could be a /etc/zfs/zpool.cache issue.

Turns out I was mis-reading the serial numbers, and the drives are in fact, NOT in by-id. Turns out that even if I plug the currently working drives that are plugged in to the physical port-0 on the card into port-1, they don't show up either. I can't find any BIOS options for enabling the port, and there are no on-card jumpers do so, so I'm guessing there is a problem with the card.


Question for thread:

Is the IBM M1015 still a decent card to look for on ebay, or are there other better/cheaper cards nowadays?

deimos
Nov 30, 2006

Forget it man this bat is whack, it's got poobrain!


Thermopyle posted:

Question for thread:

Is the IBM M1015 still a decent card to look for on ebay, or are there other better/cheaper cards nowadays?

I think the M1015 is still the benchmark (or M1115, whichever you can find cheaper, they are the same controller IIRC but the M1115 might have some compatibility issues).

edit: That being said, if you can find something based on LSI's SAS 2308 (IBM's N2115 for example) for a similar price I'd go for that instead.


edit: Just checked ebay and the LSI 9211-8i is cheaper than the M1015 in some cases, saves you the flashing step!

deimos fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Apr 14, 2014

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell



deimos posted:

edit: Just checked ebay and the LSI 9211-8i is cheaper than the M1015 in some cases, saves you the flashing step!

You sure about this? My Googlin' leads me to believe you need to flash it for IT mode...

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