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Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009



Synology DSM is indeed fantastic. I'm spoiled now. Having tried, in the past: server 2012, freenas and netgear's Raidar; no way am I going to leave DSM. It's much much easier to configure and maintain (if at all) than the others i listed.

Nude Hoxha Cameo
Sep 29, 2007






So sounds like there is actually a significant difference, or is likely to be; appreciate the feedback!

I may still do the homebrew, which if I do it will also be more expensive (because I will overspend), more or less for the hell of it, but that gives me a somewhat better sense of what I'd be getting myself into.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002


If you go home brew don't forget about unRAID. It's very good.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe


Grimey Drawer

Even if I get a synology can I get another device just for transcoding Movies?

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY


I use OpenMediaVault. I've never used Synology DSM but I would believe the people here in what they say about it. I have it set up with mergerfs and SnapRAID (both plugins through OMV-Extras plugin repository) with 4x4TB drives, a number of docker containers. After initial setup, I don't have to administer too much. Just the occasional update since version 3 is still technically beta, but rather stable (thanks Debian). My only real complaint is that I can't update docker images from their repositories easily or at least I haven't found it. Not that I need to do it all the time though.

BoyBlunder
Sep 17, 2008


caberham posted:

Even if I get a synology can I get another device just for transcoding Movies?

I do this - I have a media server with my Synology shares automounted over nfs, and it does all the heavy lifting of transcoding via Plex

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Oven Wrangler

Synology NAS with a Shield TV for a Plex server and client.

I'm the worst IT guy.

reL
May 20, 2007


Internet Explorer posted:

Synology NAS with a Shield TV for a Plex server and client.

I'm the worst IT guy.

Homebrew was cool before I did IT for a living, now... why would I want to janitor at home when I janitor at work?

This is why I'm looking at picking up an 1817+. That and because I'd rather spend my time labbing my environment, and not tweaking my storage.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002


Internet Explorer posted:

Synology NAS with a Shield TV for a Plex server and client.

I'm the worst IT guy.

Nah. You just don't want to cj at home. I get it. I probably would have went that way if I didn't inherit a bunch of 6TB drives from work when the company went belly up.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012



Fallen Rib

BoyBlunder posted:

I do this - I have a media server with my Synology shares automounted over nfs, and it does all the heavy lifting of transcoding via Plex

caberham posted:

Even if I get a synology can I get another device just for transcoding Movies?

Internet Explorer posted:

Synology NAS with a Shield TV for a Plex server and client.

I'm the worst IT guy.
Or just use an Apple TV with Infuse, which doesn't transcode, and you're golden (assuming you have 802.11ac.)

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012



Fallen Rib

Those 8TB WD easystores that have Reds inside are back at $159 at Best Buy.

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT


KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

Those 8TB WD easystores that have Reds inside are back at $159 at Best Buy.

Fuck. Now do I need 2 or 3...

G-Prime
Apr 30, 2003

Baby, when it's love,
if it's not rough it isn't fun.


Moey posted:

Fuck. Now do I need 2 or 3...

X, where X is the number of 3.5" bays in your NAS.

Edit: A couple weeks down the road now, my drives are working like a champ. They're running a touch hotter than my Toshibas did, and they're noticeably louder when seeking, but not enough to be annoying to me.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell



Whats the normal price on those Easystore's again?

G-Prime
Apr 30, 2003

Baby, when it's love,
if it's not rough it isn't fun.


MSRP is $299. I don't think I've ever seen them that high though. I seem to recall $229 being the "normal" price, and most of the sale prices prior to the sale before this current one were $179.

Nude Hoxha Cameo
Sep 29, 2007






Edit: decided to be lazy and got the syno.

Nude Hoxha Cameo fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Aug 22, 2017

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT


G-Prime posted:

X, where X is the number of 3.5" bays in your NAS.

I have a unique setup. Currently running 2x8tb archive drives for my media storage, synced nightly.

Planning on either going 3x8tb raid 5 and backing up to the existing 2x8tb archive drives spanned. Other option is spanning 2x8tb reds and backing up to the same archive drives.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

If Godzilla can do it, you know I can deliver!

Pillbug

Okay, so I upgraded to FreeNAS 11 from Corral.

I'm really not impressed. A couple of features I miss:

Supporting Console/KVM access for VMs (they have VNC but its not nearly as nice as just opening another tab for graphical KVM access)
Boot2Docker Integration
Visual Interface (the Beta really isn't anywhere near as mature as the Corral one either, and it doesn't look anywhere near as good.)
Visual ZFS Management

They should've just stuck to Corral despite the team losses.

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Aug 20, 2017

G-Prime
Apr 30, 2003

Baby, when it's love,
if it's not rough it isn't fun.


Those things (and the immense laziness I feel every time I think about having to redo all of my containers) are what's stopped me from going and doing it myself. Corral is fine, so long as you're not doing serious power user stuff. It absolutely has some problems, but it's working day to day without any issues for me, so I'm sticking with it. In another 6 months or so, 11 will likely have reached feature parity with Corral, and I'll try to make the time to do a fresh install, but for now, this works for me.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

If Godzilla can do it, you know I can deliver!

Pillbug

G-Prime posted:

Those things (and the immense laziness I feel every time I think about having to redo all of my containers) are what's stopped me from going and doing it myself. Corral is fine, so long as you're not doing serious power user stuff. It absolutely has some problems, but it's working day to day without any issues for me, so I'm sticking with it. In another 6 months or so, 11 will likely have reached feature parity with Corral, and I'll try to make the time to do a fresh install, but for now, this works for me.

I'm seriously considering rolling back. Not a fan of 11 at all. The BHYVE implementation on Corral was way better and more ingrained, and re-gaining jails just wasn't really worth the switch.

G-Prime
Apr 30, 2003

Baby, when it's love,
if it's not rough it isn't fun.


My biggest beef with Corral is actually its best feature not being implemented exactly how I want it. Their Docker support is really smooth except for one very specific thing: Upgrading containers. You have to delete and fully recreate them, which is a pain in the ass if you set up custom environment variables and networking configuration. That's the big thing that jails have over it. If they just had an export button so I could dump my configs to yaml or something, and then import them back in, I'd be happy as a clam.

Likely what I'll end up doing is rolling a standalone VM instead of their boot2docker implementation and just running my stuff on there via docker-compose, because that's how I do stuff elsewhere.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

If Godzilla can do it, you know I can deliver!

Pillbug

G-Prime posted:

My biggest beef with Corral is actually its best feature not being implemented exactly how I want it. Their Docker support is really smooth except for one very specific thing: Upgrading containers. You have to delete and fully recreate them, which is a pain in the ass if you set up custom environment variables and networking configuration. That's the big thing that jails have over it. If they just had an export button so I could dump my configs to yaml or something, and then import them back in, I'd be happy as a clam.

Likely what I'll end up doing is rolling a standalone VM instead of their boot2docker implementation and just running my stuff on there via docker-compose, because that's how I do stuff elsewhere.

I wish they'd just let someone fork Corral and fix the very minor issues.

Mr Shiny Pants
Nov 12, 2012


So MS decided to remove REFS from Windows 10 Pro, I don't know who runs it here but just a heads up:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...orkstation-sku/

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





That seems thoroughly pointless.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

Bless You Ants, Blants



Fun Shoe

Ah yes, millions of SKUs. Excellent.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

If Godzilla can do it, you know I can deliver!

Pillbug

They want to split Pro into Pro and Pro Workstation.

God, they are really desperate to cash in.

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT


Was anyone in here running REFS for their home storage?

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

I did on my Storage Spaces mirrors back when I still used it.

Recycled Karma
Jul 16, 2004


Grimey Drawer

Crashplan is killing off their Home service: https://www.crashplan.com/en-us/consumer/nextsteps/

What are good alternatives? I don't need unlimited but it would be nice if the backup service ran in Docker.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Haha, that's mean. I mean, didn't they make it on home users?

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

Bless You Ants, Blants



Fun Shoe

Backblaze is good

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009



Moey posted:

Was anyone in here running REFS for their home storage?

I used to run server 2012 with refs on my home HP micro server.

But fuck CJing that, synology supremacy now.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Recycled Karma posted:

Crashplan is killing off their Home service: https://www.crashplan.com/en-us/consumer/nextsteps/

What are good alternatives? I don't need unlimited but it would be nice if the backup service ran in Docker.

Yeah, that's shitty, especially because the client was also good for computer-to-computer backup.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell



I just renewed a couple weeks ago so I've got a year to figure something out...

I've always thought a neat idea would be something that encrypts your shit and uploads it to usenet.

BoyBlunder
Sep 17, 2008


Fucking Crashplan.

I guess it's time to Synology all the things.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





I just got my email on it - looks like since my account still has well over a year left on it, they'll upgrade me to Small Business after October 2018 and then 75% off the next year of service. I wonder how that will impact (I'm assuming it will break) my computers that back up to each other instead of the cloud.

eames
May 9, 2009



Looks like they're killing off computer-to-computer backups entirely, that was my primary way of using it.
Guess I'll have to buy a couple more Arq licenses now, either that or Macrium Reflect.

fletcher
Jun 27, 2003

ken park is my favorite movie

Cybernetic Crumb

Dammit! I knew the Crashplan gravy train was gonna end some day. Granted, it did last a lot longer than I thought it would.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams


Does anyone offer anything like Crashplan's family plan? Backing up to my server isn't a huge deal, but it was nice to throw my mom's and wife's computers on my plan without having to decide if it was worth $50 a year or not to back up a couple gigabytes of data.

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003


rsync them to a folder on your server, backup from there? Most users don't generate gigabytes of stuff on the fly which is worth backing up so differential-wise it should be pretty manageable even if they're not in the same location.

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