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Hadlock posted:What unit did you go with? Are you using hardware or software mirroring? This is reasonable, but be aware that instead of being tied to a software raid solution, you'll be tying yourself to a specific piece of hardware for running your storage. What if your hardware raid device dies? Are you confident that you can get a replacement soon enough? Will the company still be making the hardware? The answers to those questions are one of the reasons I'm using ZFS (and why I used mdadm before), but that means I'm tied to Linux, FreeBSD, etc. No windows for me.
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Does anyone know of an open source NAS OS that has support for Fiber Channel? I want to build a FC-based NAS for an ESX test lab. Why fiber and not iSCSI over 10g ethernet? Because I want to. ![]() FreeNAS has a hacky solution and Openfiler requires a paid license for their business edition. I think Nexenta had support for FC but if I recall you needed a VM appliance to manage it, even the community edition.
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ESOS claims to support it, I haven't used it.
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As someone who has been on the fence between build and buy for a while now, that new Qnap is pretty compelling. I like that it has some upgradeability in the pcie slot.. Not having to maintain the OS beyond occasionally updating via web interface is a nice bonus too. A bit pricey locally right now but hopefully they come down a bit.
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Agrikk posted:Does anyone know of an open source NAS OS that has support for Fiber Channel? I want to build a FC-based NAS for an ESX test lab. Why fiber and not iSCSI over 10g ethernet? Because I want to. If you drop the open source requirement, there's datacore sansymphony which does exactly what you ask. I don't remember how long does the demo lasts(if you plan to license it, it's not cheap).
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Agrikk posted:Does anyone know of an open source NAS OS that has support for Fiber Channel? I want to build a FC-based NAS for an ESX test lab. Why fiber and not iSCSI over 10g ethernet? Because I want to. If you're willing to get your hands dirty with configuration files, FreeBSD's CAM Target Layer supports target mode with QLogic and LSI FC HBAs. Illumos distros like OpenIndiana and OmniOS can also act as FC targets with COMSTAR.
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priznat posted:As someone who has been on the fence between build and buy for a while now, that new Qnap is pretty compelling. I like that it has some upgradeability in the pcie slot.. The NAS itself is garbage (J3455, 2.0x2 expandability, two RAM slots with some shit-tier limit ![]() OTOH the expansion card itself looks pretty legit - 2x M.2 slots and 10 GbE on the same adapter is pretty fucking cool. Too bad it's running at 2.0x4 speeds so it'll bottleneck at half the throughput of a single SSD let alone when you try and bring 10 GbE to bear. If they come out with a version of that with a PLX switch onboard and 3.0x16 speeds I'm all over it. Also, on that NAS with its 2.0x2 slot it'll be running at 1 GB/s or 8 Gb/s total throughput so you literally won't even be able to run the 10 GbE at full speed ![]()
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Paul MaudDib posted:The NAS itself is garbage (J3455, 2.0x2 expandability, two RAM slots with some shit-tier limit Given the tech specs, the qm2 used in the bt3 runs the 10g card over pcie(the lone pcie 2.0x2 slot) while the two ssd are run over the onboard sata storage(they state that the card will only work on that nas unlike the conventional qm2 models). 8gb is the consumer atom memory limit imposed by intel but afaik it's not that dramatic. I have the rack version (1253bu) of the same family with 4gb and even when transcoding and running containers it never breaks 40% usage(noisier than i hoped tho).
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Is there any sort of fun "shortie" PCIe card (less than a couple inches tall) that I could do anything useful with a PCIe 3.0x1 slot? Can't have any functionality that needs the rear bulkhead (I could remove a bracket if needed but no connectors/etc). Disk on module? RAID controller for a boot disk?
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Paul MaudDib posted:Is there any sort of fun "shortie" PCIe card (less than a couple inches tall) that I could do anything useful with a PCIe 3.0x1 slot? Can't have any functionality that needs the rear bulkhead (I could remove a bracket if needed but no connectors/etc). You are better off with a pcie flat riser/extension to put a half/full size board somewhere else.
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Any good deals on 6-8 TB drives right now? I'm going to splurge and finally buy a Synology DS918+ (yay)
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Not sure if this is the right place for it, but I put together a FreeNAS box the other day, and I'm looking for the best solution to remote manage it. I have installed a Softether VPN in a jail, and my unifi gateway can do a shitty L2TP implementation, but I'd actually prefer to just RDP. Issue is I don't want to keep an always-on windows box, or what's the point of having FreeNAS? I did spin up a light weight ubuntu VM, but it seems that the company that make Thinlinc forgot to pay their bills or something, and I don't think there are any other really viable RDP solutions for Linux (VNC can fuck right off). Just wondering what other people are doing for remote access to FreeNAS?
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Run OpenVPN in a jail or VM and pass through (don't recall terminology) the local network, use normal webgui via IP? That also gets you SMB via IP address though hostname probably doesn't work. Heck, OpenVPN doesn't even need to be on the FreeNAS machine, could be on your router if you have DDWRT or something. lurksion fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Oct 23, 2017 |
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I did try openVPN, for some reason TLS didn't want to work. May have been a shitty old guide. Softether works though, I just need to figure how to get it to route without passing all of my gateway traffic through my home network.
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You can also try the managed OpenVPN server that they have (2 allowed connected clients) if manual setup is troublesome. https://openvpn.net/index.php/acces...r/overview.html
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I mean I have a working VPN via Softether, I just need to figure out how to get it to allow me to route through to that network without routing all traffic via the VPN.
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Generally you want to have VPN accessible devices on a different segment than the rest of your network, it's easier to set up and maintain and more secure; however check out https://openvpn.net/index.php/open-...owto.html#scope if you can't.
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Looks like RAID-Z expansion is coming! There's supposed to be improved resilver and scrub, too. https://twitter.com/OpenZFS/status/921042446275944448
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"Coming to FreeNAS in 2030!"
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Is FreeNAS still a good choice of operating system for a system I'll be putting together, or are there alternatives I should be looking into?
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anthonypants posted:Is FreeNAS still a good choice of operating system for a system I'll be putting together, or are there alternatives I should be looking into? FreeNAS is still the best choice if you want a "NAS appliance" where everything is mostly pre-configured and spoonfed to you. It is way behind on certain things, and has some things that it doesn't do all that nicely. If you are reasonably technologically adept you can put together something equally good using a generic Linux/Unix distribution like Ubuntu Server fairly easily. Mostly you just need to install Samba and configure your shares.
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If you want a hands off thing with excellent support and you don't mind paying, UnRAID is great.
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anthonypants posted:Is FreeNAS still a good choice of operating system for a system I'll be putting together, or are there alternatives I should be looking into? FreeNAS is still the best choice for "I don't really want to think too much about this and I'm not looking to do anything super complex." You can be up and running with shares, Plex, Transmission, and various other add-ons with only a few clicks. If you want to use it more as a dev box to teach yourself FreeBSD or fancy VM/NAS stuff, you might be better going with a full OS, but if you just want it to work it's great.
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Matt Zerella posted:If you want a hands off thing with excellent support and you don't mind paying, UnRAID is great. What OS is unRAID based on? Is it linux? A *BSD?
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Volguus posted:What OS is unRAID based on? Is it linux? A *BSD? Slackware last I checked.
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phongn posted:Looks like RAID-Z expansion is coming! There's supposed to be improved resilver and scrub, too. Hell fucking yes. Unless they really fucked it up, that means we get block pointer re-write, and can now at long last re balance data across new vdevs!
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Gerdalti posted:Any good deals on 6-8 TB drives right now? I'm going to splurge and finally buy a Synology DS918+ (yay) Best Buy have their discounted 8TB Easystore deal on again after making it full the $300 price for a week, new price is $200 not the $180 or $160 seen previously.
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Hell fucking yes. Unless they really fucked it up, that means we get block pointer re-write, and can now at long last re balance data across new vdevs! BPR is basically never going to happen; it's so intrusive its been described as "the last ZFS feature, ever".
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Paul MaudDib posted:FreeNAS is still the best choice if you want a "NAS appliance" where everything is mostly pre-configured and spoonfed to you. It is way behind on certain things, and has some things that it doesn't do all that nicely. If you are reasonably technologically adept you can put together something equally good using a generic Linux/Unix distribution like Ubuntu Server fairly easily. Mostly you just need to install Samba and configure your shares.
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phongn posted:No block pointer rewrite but it does re-balance. I'm wondering if this is partially based on the device removal feature. I guess we'll see what they meant by that, and how they specifically implemented it. Being able to add drives to a pool and get it to rebalance the data to the new drive is almost as good.
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phongn posted:Looks like RAID-Z expansion is coming! There's supposed to be improved resilver and scrub, too. This is the best tech news in years.
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DrDork posted:"Coming to FreeNAS in 2017!" D. Ebdrup posted:So, apparently FreeBSD Foundation and Delphix is sponsoring Matt Ahrens to work on raidz expansion for OpenZFS, plus there's an absolute ton of really awesome things being presented at the OpenZFS 2017 DevSummit.
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How resilient is ZFS to major changes like this? Any chance that a FreeNAS update with new features could wreck your pool?
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I would expect those chances to be minimal. The whole point of moving to feature flags was to head off those compatibility issues. If you enable / utilize it, you might not be able to re-import that pool into a different system that doesn't support it, and that should be it.
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Paul MaudDib posted:FreeNAS is still the best choice if you want a "NAS appliance" where everything is mostly pre-configured and spoonfed to you. It is way behind on certain things, and has some things that it doesn't do all that nicely. If you are reasonably technologically adept you can put together something equally good using a generic Linux/Unix distribution like Ubuntu Server fairly easily. Mostly you just need to install Samba and configure your shares. If you need more stuff like Plex and whatnot, installing Docker and getting that stuff going is barely harder than FreeNAS.
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bobfather posted:How resilient is ZFS to major changes like this? Any chance that a FreeNAS update with new features could wreck your pool? Non- ![]() D. Ebdrup fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Oct 24, 2017 |
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Hardware question, I'm trying to consolidate down from three devices (a synology NAS, a junk computer I run VMs on for fun, and a media center box) down to one. But I always get into the problem of form factor. My junk PC is just a small zotac box, my media center is currently a nVidia Shield TV, and the Synology is just the small 4-bay unit. All fits nice and neat on my TV stand and I could never find a good standard PC case that I thought would work with my current space requirements. In my latest attempt to find an alternative solution I thought about using an external drive enclosure and an Intel NUC (or maybe a more powerful/modern Zotac box), but I've got no experience with external drive enclosures. Is there any particular problem with finding a dumb four bay drive enclosure connected to another box with eSATA or USB?
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nessin posted:Hardware question, I'm trying to consolidate down from three devices (a synology NAS, a junk computer I run VMs on for fun, and a media center box) down to one. But I always get into the problem of form factor. My junk PC is just a small zotac box, my media center is currently a nVidia Shield TV, and the Synology is just the small 4-bay unit. All fits nice and neat on my TV stand and I could never find a good standard PC case that I thought would work with my current space requirements. In my latest attempt to find an alternative solution I thought about using an external drive enclosure and an Intel NUC (or maybe a more powerful/modern Zotac box), but I've got no experience with external drive enclosures. Is there any particular problem with finding a dumb four bay drive enclosure connected to another box with eSATA or USB? If you want 4 or more disks and enough grunt to run vms and what have you, you should consider the high end desk qnaps, they have just announced a threadripper unit which is pretty much a vm server with storage as an extra. x82 series models have 6-series intel processors which should fit your requirements.
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SlowBloke posted:If you want 4 or more disks and enough grunt to run vms and what have you, you should consider the high end desk qnaps, they have just announced a threadripper unit which is pretty much a vm server with storage as an extra. x82 series models have 6-series intel processors which should fit your requirements. Half of the reason I want to get away from the Synology is to get away from dealing with proprietary or encoded file systems and backups, I'm assuming the QNAP has the same problem.
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nessin posted:Half of the reason I want to get away from the Synology is to get away from dealing with proprietary or encoded file systems and backups, I'm assuming the QNAP has the same problem. Qnap have multiple layers of non-proprietary software which may be tricky to open on a non-qnap device if you do disaster recovery, to the end user it's just SMB/AFP/NFS/FTP. If you want to janitor your nas and make your own, you are better off building a small itx build rather than getting a nuc and an external disk chassis. If you can, maybe set up your vm+storage in your basement and use the nvidia shield to play back to the home theatre, a four disk vm host without noise/power optimization is going to make more noise than your synology.
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