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aborn
Jun 2, 2001

1, 2, woop! woop!


I just got a Synology DS209+II a couple of days ago and I have absolutely nothing but praise for it. I've been using the hell out of it too, DLNA, NFS, AFP, FTP, iTunes, and it handles everything perfectly. Fantastic product.

paradigmm
May 28, 2002

by Y Kant Ozma Post


augustob posted:

I just got a Synology DS209+II a couple of days ago and I have absolutely nothing but praise for it. I've been using the hell out of it too, DLNA, NFS, AFP, FTP, iTunes, and it handles everything perfectly. Fantastic product.

I just got a Synology DS210j a couple days ago and it's pretty good, the management shit is great.

I've noticed several times it has lost LAN connectivity (!) but I think my network equipment may be to blame (replacing soon).

The one thing that really bothers me about the Synology stuff is even if you have all the media services disabled it still throws a ton of @eaDir garbage which are picked up by XBMC (in file listings/browsing). I outright disabled the services using the method in the last post here: http://forum.synology.com/enu/viewt...p?f=117&t=10065 problem went away. They are like virtual meta info for media or something, not actual files.

NeuralSpark
Apr 16, 2004



I virtualized my file server using VMware ESXi and raw device mapped my 5 RAID drives to the Linux VM where I use XFS / mdadm to publish the stack out via NFS.

It's one of the better decisions I've made in a while, as it's allowed me to use the machine that's already running to host test VMs for work crap.

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA


NeuralSpark posted:

I virtualized my file server using VMware ESXi and raw device mapped my 5 RAID drives to the Linux VM where I use XFS / mdadm to publish the stack out via NFS.

It's one of the better decisions I've made in a while, as it's allowed me to use the machine that's already running to host test VMs for work crap.


Virtualization is the greatest thing ever. I have about a dozen VMs with various versions of windows on my opensolaris box, all tied into a big assed RAIDZ2 array. Since I suck at any *nix based system unless it has a precompiled pkg to install, I use it for all my torrenting, media serving, and porn collection needs. It's also real nice that virtualbox supports RDP natively, so I can just dial into the VM and use it almost like a thin client on my regular system.

I even fixed the fuckoff loud fans in my Norco 4220. Turns out you can replace the fan bracket with 3 120mm fans ziptied together, then ziptie the fan brick to the case through the holes the original bracket mounted to. Result: A much much quieter system with about the same airflow. No longer does this thing sound like someone has a 727 spooling up for takeoff in my bedroom.

Methylethylaldehyde fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Apr 25, 2010

Halcyon
Oct 23, 2004
I was just trying to contribute

sorry if this is the wrong thread but, any suggestions for good online storage?
my school blocked off usenet and torrents so a friend is willing to dl for me and upload it if I can find a decent storage site.

Lenins Potato
May 8, 2008

I ALREADY KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU AND I ROUTINELY TALK TO TRANNIES
i pegged money mike

Halcyon posted:

sorry if this is the wrong thread but, any suggestions for good online storage?
my school blocked off usenet and torrents so a friend is willing to dl for me and upload it if I can find a decent storage site.

Even SSL ports?

dj_pain
Mar 28, 2005



NeuralSpark posted:

I virtualized my file server using VMware ESXi and raw device mapped my 5 RAID drives to the Linux VM where I use XFS / mdadm to publish the stack out via NFS.

That is a fantastic idea ! I have to rebuild my server this weekend so I will give it a try.


Does mdadm run any slower ?

NeuralSpark
Apr 16, 2004



dj_pain posted:

That is a fantastic idea ! I have to rebuild my server this weekend so I will give it a try.


Does mdadm run any slower ?

I admit I did upgrade the server, as I sent from a C2D @ 1.83 w/ 3G of RAM under Linux to a C2Q 2.4 w/ 8 GB of RAM for ESXi. The VM itself only has a 2.4 Ghz / 2GB of RAM allocation though. Using DD to benchmark, I went from about 250 MB /sec read to 220 in the VM. Since I connected to it via GbE, it's still way better than wire speed.

The cool thing is that I can watch the performance via vSphere and allocation more memory if the VM needs it. Compile in memory hot-plug in the kernel and you add it real time. https://www.vm-help.com has an article about raw mapping the drives as ESXi doesn't support it with SATA drives officially.

EnergizerFellow
Oct 11, 2005

More drunk than a barrel of monkeys

dj_pain posted:

Does mdadm run any slower ?
Nope, not in any way that really matters.

If you're feeling like pushing the technical side, you could even map the underlying disk controller hardware directly to the VM with VMDirectPath, i.e. AMD-Vi/VT-d (no AMD desktop chipsets support this; only Q35/Q45/Q57 for Intel desktop).

NeuralSpark
Apr 16, 2004



EnergizerFellow posted:

Nope, not in any way that really matters.

If you're feeling like pushing the technical side, you could even map the underlying disk controller hardware directly to the VM with VMDirectPath, i.e. AMD-Vi/VT-d (no AMD desktop chipsets support this; only Q35/Q45/Q57 for Intel desktop).

Thought about that, but I'm using one port of it to boot from, and modifying the oem.tgz from the install ISO is a huge pain in the ass just to boot from a PCIe controller.

I did build Sil3132 and Marvell SATA support though:
http://www.vm-help.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2096

PopeOnARope
Jul 23, 2007

Hey! Quit touching my junk!


electronicmaji posted:

Has anyone on this forum been able to fix the Seagate 7200.11 line BSY stuck drive error? Or possibly have a kit or willing to provide the service?

I bought shit myself to do it, but i'm horrible at all this soldering, pin outs, and shit.

I have the cable / knowledge to correct the issue. How many drives are effected?

emtoor
Feb 11, 2010


Just bought me a Netgear Stora with 1TB in it. I'm in love with this thing. It has some really ncool options and extra bay for mirroring another HD. Some people complain that this is not enough space, but for what I use it for it's amazing. You can set it up to have FTP/Browser access in like 2 mins. It also has a Desktop mirroring function where you chose folders on your computer and it will mirror the folder to it every 5 mins or w/e you set. I would suggest this to anyone just needing a small NAS. I got my for $171 from Best Buy. (yes I know but I have a friend who works there and got me a nice discount) Retail price is like $200

Henry Black
Jun 27, 2004

If she's not making this face, you're not doing it right.

Fun Shoe

Okay, so I filled up the 2TB in my ReadyNAS already.

What next? Can I buy some sort of tower for 8 drives or something ridiculous?

Threep
Apr 1, 2006

It's kind of a long story.

I'm looking to replace my current home server setup with an Atom/ION-based one to save on power, and I'm wondering how to do file storage. I'm looking into 3 options and I'd like some advice, mainly on eSATA.

I've been looking into a RAID case hooked up via eSATA. However, the motherboard I'm looking at doesn't have eSATA PM nor an empty PCIe slot for an eSATA card so I'd have to find one that treats all the disks as one as far as the PC is concerned. As far as I can tell that would work, but it sounds like something that'd have a catch. If so what is it?

If that's not an option, I'd either hook up the RAID via USB or do a full NAS setup. It seems like connecting it directly via USB would use less power, but which gives the best transfer speeds?

I'd rather not run a standalone NAS unless that's clearly the best option, so if anyone wants to convince me it is go ahead. I'd also like some suggestions on what RAID case to buy.

Also my server runs Ubuntu so if that's gonna cause issues with the eSATA or USB options let me know.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

~this is me posting irl~


You don't need a card to do eSATA - you can just buy a bracket that plugs into one of your motherboard's SATA ports.

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
HEY ILL HAV 2 TXT U L8TR I JUST DROVE IN 2 A DAYCARE AND SCRATCHED MY RAZR

I guess I might find this out quickly through trial and error, but can I put an 8x RAID card in the 16x PCIe slot generally used for a video card? The board has integrated graphics but I dont know how it will play with the system. My board only has that one 16x slot and like 2 other 1x slots.

NeuralSpark
Apr 16, 2004



dietcokefiend posted:

I guess I might find this out quickly through trial and error, but can I put an 8x RAID card in the 16x PCIe slot generally used for a video card? The board has integrated graphics but I dont know how it will play with the system. My board only has that one 16x slot and like 2 other 1x slots.

Should work just fine. I have a 4x PCIe network card in a 16x slot that has worked for ages.

powderific
May 13, 2004



Grimey Drawer

This may be a stupid question, but would I be able to put a hard drive that already has data on it into something like a QNap TS-119 and use it without reformatting?

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

~this is me posting irl~


dietcokefiend posted:

I guess I might find this out quickly through trial and error, but can I put an 8x RAID card in the 16x PCIe slot generally used for a video card? The board has integrated graphics but I dont know how it will play with the system. My board only has that one 16x slot and like 2 other 1x slots.

I don't have integrated graphics, but I do have an 8x RAID card in a 16x slot and it works fabulously.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





For what it's worth, any PCIe card will work in any PCIe slot, as long as it will physically fit. Technically, if you cut the end off of the slot (or had a x16 physical slot wired up as an x1) you could run a graphics card off of PCIe x1.

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
HEY ILL HAV 2 TXT U L8TR I JUST DROVE IN 2 A DAYCARE AND SCRATCHED MY RAZR

IOwnCalculus posted:

For what it's worth, any PCIe card will work in any PCIe slot, as long as it will physically fit. Technically, if you cut the end off of the slot (or had a x16 physical slot wired up as an x1) you could run a graphics card off of PCIe x1.

Yea well I just wanted to confirm that it wouldn't fuck with the on-board graphics and turn it off if that slot was filled or some stupid shit.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





dietcokefiend posted:

Yea well I just wanted to confirm that it wouldn't fuck with the on-board graphics and turn it off if that slot was filled or some stupid shit.

Yeah, that was an AGP limitation - chipsets could only have one port for that, whether it was for onboard or a video card.

Threep
Apr 1, 2006

It's kind of a long story.

Farmer Crack-Ass posted:

You don't need a card to do eSATA - you can just buy a bracket that plugs into one of your motherboard's SATA ports.
Thanks but I'm not missing an eSATA port, I'm missing an eSATA port with port multiplying so that I can hook up a RAID case without having to find one that doesn't need PM to hook up ~4 HDs.

I'd still like to know if this is worthwhile or a terrible idea, and if not, whether USB would be the best alternative.

PopeOnARope
Jul 23, 2007

Hey! Quit touching my junk!


I'm thinking about dropping some funds on a http://www.directcanada.com/product...=Sans%20Digital eventually; but this does mean needing to migrate nearly 2TB onto other arrays (I think what I will do is buy 2 more 1.5s, one more 2, and a cheap SATA drive for boot). So eventually, my proposed setups will be as follows

8x1TB in Sans Digital Enclosure, RAID 10 (4TB)
4x1.5TB on ICH10R in RAID 5 (4.5TB Usable)

This presents a few issues though. Namely, a cheaper option would be to attempt a bootable RAID 50 for a rather nutty 9TB.

To be honest, I'm really unsure where to go with this. I've got all the SATA ports populated in my system (10 of them, 2 lost to boot and optical), yet I'll eventually need more storage. Decisions, decisions.

Edit: Christ, 2TB drives are down to $150 now? I wish I had the money (or the lack of sense) to just shovel 8 of these into one enclosure, and then sell the 6 x 1TB and 2 x 1.5TB I already have.

\/ The issue to this is that it requires OS migration or the creation of a seperate rig. I tend to game on my media server too, and I would rather not lose that functionality.

PopeOnARope fucked around with this message at 20:17 on May 1, 2010

necrobobsledder
Mar 21, 2005
Lay down your soul to the gods rock 'n roll

Nap Ghost

My array growth strategy is adding zpools constructed of separate 5x1TB, 4x1.5TB, and later 6x2TB hooked onto a couple JBOD cards with 8 ports per card. When a drive goes down in a raidz1 array, I'll buy a new drive to replace it or migrate the data on the existing array to another zpool and sell the old, obsolete drives. I don't expect to need more than 10TB of storage at a time and only need about 6TB at present, so this should work fine.

shodanjr_gr
Nov 20, 2007


What's the goon consesus for a NAS in the $200-$300 range for 1 TB of (preferably mirrored storage) and the ability to act as a media server? If such a thing exists that is...

I saw the Netgear STORA at Best Buy earlier, but my experience with other netgear products hasn't been that good...

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

Looking for some help here. I am currently changing over my Windows Server 2008 R2 file server to Ubuntu 10.04.

I have all my data backed up so I'm ready to start formatting my drives and installing Ubuntu but I ran into a slight issue during installation. I thought to do RAID I could just setup my RAID with the built in Intel software RAID on my motherboard and install. Ubuntu saw my RAID1 array and I choose automatically with LVM but then I get an error saying "autopartitioning failed". So I started looking it up on Google and apparently I should be using mdadm or something rather than my Intel software RAID built into the chipset?

Can someone explain this better to me?

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik


Intel "raid" is softraid, most if not all of its functionality comes from the windows drivers. Switch your chipset to ahci mode, blow away anything on the disks with gparted, then you should be good to go for mdadm.

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

devmd01 posted:

Intel "raid" is softraid, most if not all of its functionality comes from the windows drivers. Switch your chipset to ahci mode, blow away anything on the disks with gparted, then you should be good to go for mdadm.

Thanks, after reading more into it, mdadm seems to be way ahead of the Intel chipset RAID anyways.

Here's hoping I can get this setup on my first go.

The_Frag_Man
Mar 26, 2005



Finally the perfect solution:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/fractal-array

6 drive small sized ITX box.

eames
May 9, 2009



The_Frag_Man posted:

Finally the perfect solution:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/fractal-array

6 drive small sized ITX box.

Funny that you mention this here, I just received my Fractal Design Define R2 (the midi-tower) and came to this thread to recommend it.
It was the only case with 8x 3.5" (+2x 5.25") trays and reasonable dimensions that I could find. I didn’t want another extremely heavy Lian-Li semi-server case and the design of the Define R2 looks pretty decent to boot.

The only downside I’ve found so far is that it stinks so unbelievably bad. Seriously. That prefitted noise absorbing bitumen smells absolutely dangerous, god knows what is made of. I think I’ll have to rip it out before my whole apartment is contaminated with that excruciating smell.

jeeves
May 27, 2001

Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire


eames posted:

Funny that you mention this here, I just received my Fractal Design Define R2 (the midi-tower) and came to this thread to recommend it.
It was the only case with 8x 3.5" (+2x 5.25") trays and reasonable dimensions that I could find. I didn’t want another extremely heavy Lian-Li semi-server case and the design of the Define R2 looks pretty decent to boot.

The only downside I’ve found so far is that it stinks so unbelievably bad. Seriously. That prefitted noise absorbing bitumen smells absolutely dangerous, god knows what is made of. I think I’ll have to rip it out before my whole apartment is contaminated with that excruciating smell.

Smell? Seriously? That's kind of hilarious. Reviews are going to have to make a new smell scale to go along with noise!

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams


The_Frag_Man posted:

Finally the perfect solution:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/fractal-array

6 drive small sized ITX box.

I think I just came. This looks amazing.

eames
May 9, 2009



jeeves posted:

Smell? Seriously? That's kind of hilarious. Reviews are going to have to make a new smell scale to go along with noise!

Yeah, believe me, it really is extremely bad. I’ve found out that its the bitumen and Fractal Design changed the material for the newer models, looks like I got an old one.

see google.

I’m just going to rip all of that junk out and replace it with something that doesn’t smell like it will give you cancer within the next couple of days.

Zhentar
Sep 28, 2003

Brilliant Master Genius


I've just upgraded my RAID 5 array to use 4 1.5TB hard drives. Yay! Woo! Oh wait, I can't expand my partition to be larger than 2048GB. Balls. So is there any way to convert to GPT while I still have a partition on the array? My searching hasn't turned up anything so far, and copying everything off of here is going to be a tremendous pain in the ass (and would also mean I wasted a ton of effort upgrading the array and working around a troublesome OCE).

eames
May 9, 2009



I put together my new System today and ran into an issue with my SAS controller. Its a Intel SASUC8I ( which is really a LSI 3081E-R, it even says so on the stickers — Intel didn’t bother to rebadge it ).

It comes with two SFF8087 ports and supports 8 drives so I bought two 1xSFF8087->4xSATA breakout cables to connect the drives. I’ve tried 4 different drives and 2 different SSDs but the controller recognizes none of them. Updated the controller’s firmware and bios, nothing.

Could it be the cables? I’ve now read that there are reverse breakout and forward breakout cables but I have no idea which one I have and which one I need for my controller.

Cyberdud
Sep 6, 2005

Space pedestrian

Currently looking for a good Nas solution that would give us ISCSI , 8 drive bays, redundant power supplies, hot-spare and 2 gigabit interfaces.

Was planning on building a 6 drive 1.5 TB 7200rpm RAID 10 setup with 2 hot-spare drives.

Is this possible for under 1800 for the Nas itself without any hard drives ?

We had the thecus in mind but apparently their support is dreadful.

what is this
Sep 11, 2001

it is a lemur


You're getting into the enterprise range feature wise but you're still being a cheapskate and trying to pay consumer prices.

Is this a joke project or a real project? If the former, drop the requirement for redundant power supplies. If it's mission critical, buy a proper SAN or NAS from Equallogic or some other lower end enterprise vendor. You're going to pay more than 10 times as much though.

edit: don't get me wrong, there are rack mounted 8 bay NAS products out there, the QNAP TS-859U-RP comes to mind, it should be around $1800-$2000, but you're realllly getting yourself into trouble if you're trying to shoehorn what is ultimately a soho product into an enterprise environment. Asking for redundant power supplies seems to indicate that.

what is this fucked around with this message at 20:10 on May 11, 2010

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams


Cyberdud posted:

Currently looking for a good Nas solution that would give us ISCSI , 8 drive bays, redundant power supplies, hot-spare and 2 gigabit interfaces.

Was planning on building a 6 drive 1.5 TB 7200rpm RAID 10 setup with 2 hot-spare drives.

Is this possible for under 1800 for the Nas itself without any hard drives ?

We had the thecus in mind but apparently their support is dreadful.

Sun StorageTek 2510 has all of that, though not sure if you can get drives that big from them. 1.5T is pretty big for enterprise storage, I suspect.

Cyberdud
Sep 6, 2005

Space pedestrian

Thats the problem, its a serious project but the budget is crap. It's like trying to turn toothpicks into a functioning dell server. Any suggestions to unlock more budget or make a miracle? With the network infrastructure, i'm not supposed to go over 5-6k CAD.

Am i better off just telling them that for this kind of money we won't be getting a reliable enterprise solution?

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