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So, robocopy, does it only copy existing files if they changed? Is that a default behavior, or do I need to set it using the flags?
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zelah posted:So I picked up that synology ds411j and I got everything set up how I want it backup/homenetwork wise, but I'm completely lost when it comes to FTP access. I'd like to have a folder where if I need to get a folder to someone I can just send them a link for them to grab it. The tutorials I've seen are all "oh just enable ftp on the synology (okay done) and then just direct it to your host the end". Can anyone recommend a good step by step handholding tutorial on how to go from step 1 to completion on setting that up? I'm betting that your issue is that you need to set up dynamic dns or something similar.
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I bought a DS1010+ and 3 ST32000542AS drives a couple of months ago. The drives were acting strange (or perhaps just one of them was) audibly clicking while idle. I found that I needed to upgrade the firmware and that it would fix the idle clicking, so I did that this weekend and built a raid 5 volume. The problem is those drives seem to be discontinued now. Does it matter if I buy another brand, as long as it's 2 tb? Should I be doing a raid 5 or instead go for raid 6? Edit: Another question. Let the drives power down after inactivity or keep them running? Mongolian Queef fucked around with this message at 12:20 on Mar 21, 2011 |
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I've been looking at replacing my DNS-323 and it seems way more affordable to just buy an Atom 425 mobo, 2gb of RAM and a case for about $110. Are there any downsides that you can see to this? Also could someone take a look at this ITX PSU and tell me if they think it's going to explode and burn my house to the ground? It looks too good to be true really. Do people really use this kind of stuff in mini-PCs? http://item.gmarket.co.kr/DetailVie...service_id=pcdn (Yeah it's in Korean)
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Yes, but not usually for more than a low-power motherboard hdd and dvd drive you'd need to get the data sheet out and crunch the numbers to see if it would support all that you wanted. Also is the going rate for a 3 sata drive bay adapter like this around £70 and is it worth that? I'm planning on putting 2 in my home server so i can get 6 drives where i can only fit 4 now.
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HERAK posted:Yes, but not usually for more than a low-power motherboard hdd and dvd drive you'd need to get the data sheet out and crunch the numbers to see if it would support all that you wanted. A 5-in-3 might be a better deal, since here in the US I can get one of those for that same price off of NewEgg. What about something like this?
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tunah posted:I bought a DS1010+ and 3 ST32000542AS drives a couple of months ago. The drives were acting strange (or perhaps just one of them was) audibly clicking while idle. I found that I needed to upgrade the firmware and that it would fix the idle clicking, so I did that this weekend and built a raid 5 volume. It's mdadm linux software RAID, so mixed model drives should be fine. It's not best practice, but I wouldn't say they can't be done.
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FISHMANPET posted:A 5-in-3 might be a better deal, since here in the US I can get one of those for that same price off of NewEgg. What about something like this? You're right I was being daft trying to save money that way, i've gone for a slightly more expensive 5 bay one. It should improve things and make any future additions quicker.
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what is this posted:It's mdadm linux software RAID, so mixed model drives should be fine. It's not best practice, but I wouldn't say they can't be done. I don't know, might actually be a good thing -- they probably won't all fail at the same time.
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Combat Pretzel posted:So, robocopy, does it only copy existing files if they changed? Is that a default behavior, or do I need to set it using the flags? The default is /MIR which copies from source to dest new files and ones that have changed based on timestamps and/or size. Use caution though, as it will remove files from the dest to match the source. I always use the /L flag to test the copy (console write) prior to running it for real. Ask me how I've learned the hard way.
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HERAK posted:You're right I was being daft trying to save money that way, i've gone for a slightly more expensive 5 bay one. It should improve things and make any future additions quicker. That looks overly complicated. Why does it have 10 SATA ports? What does "dual channel" mean?
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FISHMANPET posted:That looks overly complicated. Why does it have 10 SATA ports? What does "dual channel" mean?
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What do you make of this case? There are no fans, even for the psu, which makes me a bit concerned about heat, but I'd only be putting an atom 425 board and one HDD in. http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c...=14689&cate_c4= Do you think that's dangerous?
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Speaking of cases... I really like the way this guy's setup looks, especially the case. It's a Lian Li PC-A16. Basically, instead of those ThermalTake drive bays, I want to get three 4-in-3 drive bays, load 10 up with 2TB drives, 1 with the OS drive, and 1 with an SSD for ZFS caching purposes. The problem is, the case is apparently five years old, and I can't really find it for sale new from any of the big dealers. Furthermore, it doesn't look like Lian Li put out a successor case. Wading through Newegg is proving more of a chore than I anticipated, so I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for cases that have a similar look and build quality.
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mpeg4v3 posted:Speaking of cases... There are a ton of cases with a plethora of bays out there. You could always get one of the Norco cases.
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I got this last year for mine, but it's also discontinued. It's great, I've got a DVD burner, a 3-in-2 for 2 mirrored system drives and a hot spare, a 5-in-3 with 5 drives in RaidZ, and 3 more bays open for me to get another 5-in-3 in there and get another RAIDZ vdev.
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I put a 4 in 3 backplane into my Antec 300 case so it holds 10 total drives, 6 internal to the case. That was like $130. It's not that terrible in quality at least. It's a great stop-gap solution until I can get a rack setup built at home, but there's a lot of gotchas in the way of that unfortunately. For the cost of the Lian Li case and the backplanes, that guy might as well have bought a Norco case and swapped out the fans to fulfill his noise requirements.
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PopeOnARope posted:There are a ton of cases with a plethora of bays out there. You could always get one of the Norco cases. True. I have seen plenty of solid cases on Newegg that would more than suite my purposes. Hell, right now I'm using a (very old and beat up) CM Stacker with more than enough room. I think the main thing though is that I really like the way the PC-A16 looks, too; it's a really slick look with the silver case and drive bays. necrobobsledder posted:For the cost of the Lian Li case and the backplanes, that guy might as well have bought a Norco case and swapped out the fans to fulfill his noise requirements. The only issue I have with a Norco is that, frankly, it's just too big; I don't need that many drive bays. I want something relatively small (what I mean by "small" is that it's only got enough bays as drives I have- I don't want something with half the bays unused), cool, and quiet. I guess I'll keep looking around. Either that, or I should stop being picky.
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I scored a Lian-Li PC-P80 on Craigslist for half price. I love working in the case and Lian-Li sells 4-in-3 hotswap bays which have worked out pretty well for me.
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Farmer Crack-Ass posted:I scored a Lian-Li PC-P80 on Craigslist for half price. I love working in the case and Lian-Li sells 4-in-3 hotswap bays which have worked out pretty well for me. The only problem I've had to Lian-Li's cases is that they look gorgeous out of the box, and on your first build. But after that, you start to see why aluminum drive cages are a bad thing - either the metal is too soft, or the screws were in too tight, meaning that there's worn out circles of circular metal around the drive bays. You can see it in the setup linked. Plus the oil off your skin manages to stain the stuff. It's like you can only build the system once, or you might have to wear gloves and use those little felt washers that used to insulate motherboards back in the day.
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FISHMANPET posted:That looks overly complicated. Why does it have 10 SATA ports? What does "dual channel" mean? It also gets better reviews, and if it's good i might buy 2 more and a Coolermaster RC-590 to replace the current no brand steel behemoth the server is currently in. Also no one seems to sell basic beige boxes any more. my system is pretty low power and doesn't need much cooling, all i need is a monster case to put everything in with no frills etc. and this is the closest i could find.
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I don't know if this is the right thread, but I want to move my backup solution into the cloud. A few months ago, I converted to Mac. At that time, I bought a 1 Tb WD MyBookLive to use as a wireless network drive and Time Machine drive. I also have a 1 Tb USB HD that I use to backup my backup drive. Not six months later, the MyBook is already dying. Right now I have cables all over my apartment as I try to complete one final monthly backup to my USB HD before angrily smashing the MyBook. This is a huge pain in my ass. I would like two things: 1. A solid, dependable, wireless hard drive that I can use for mass storage (~300 Gb) and Time Machine (~50 Gb). I may buy another MyBook, because I think the first one was just bad luck on my part. 2. A cron-able, rsync-able place in cloud to mirror [1] to. It is a pain in the ass to manually break out a USB HD and remember to do monthly backups of my backups. I have been a Dreamhost customer since 2003, and while their service has been hit or miss, I know they offer a for-pay backup system. I am considering that as the path of least resistance. Other thoughts that cross my mind are cutting out the middle man and going with Amazon myself, which for ~300 Gb looks like it would cost on the order of $50/mo. Can anyone critique my plan and offer suggestions or improvements? Specifically a good wireless hard drive and a solid cloud-based backup solution? Right now 1 Tb seems to be a good number. Also, I shudder to think how long it is going to take to upload hundreds of gigabytes to the cloud. That's why I want to use rsync. Kobayashi fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Mar 25, 2011 |
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No experience with these myself but have seen them mentioned a bunch: 1. Some Synology unit with a supported drive...or two drives if you want some redundancy. I've seen the DS211j mentioned a bit here for the same use. You might consider these pretty pricey though, any particular price range you're looking for? 2. Not sure if you can rsync/cron it up, but maybe Crashplan? Unlimited space for $5/month (and less if you buy years at a time), and for the big ass initial backup they have a drive service for $125-165 depending on shipping. They send you a drive, you fill it up and send it back, they copy it to their servers.
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what is this posted:It's mdadm linux software RAID, so mixed model drives should be fine. It's not best practice, but I wouldn't say they can't be done. Thanks. I added another drive and the rebuild went fine. One of the drives are still clicking, which Seagate claims could be a drive recalibrating itself when idle. To me, clicking = death. It does this very rarely but.. Does anyone here use any ST32000542AS drives? Did you also hear a clicking sound?
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B-Nasty posted:I always use the /L flag to test the copy (console write) prior to running it for real. Ask me how I've learned the hard way. ![]()
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japtor posted:No experience with these myself but have seen them mentioned a bunch: I'd rather go cheap-ish (ie consumer) on drive side of things (< $200) and pay more for solid, reputable, reliable offsite storage than vice-versa. Furthermore, I am willing to invest time up front to institute a backup plan that I don't need to tinker with for the next few years. I like the idea of sending in a drive to upload -- FedEx will always have the greatest bandwidth! -- but I am apprehensive about "unlimited storage." I would rather pay extra for a "professional" service and know it's not going to run ads against my data, or fold up when the founders get bored, or crash and burn when it scales too quickly than save a few bucks per month. On the other hand, I do not want to invest a lot of money in home kit that doesn't protect me against fire, theft, etc. I can afford a few days/weeks of data downtime for the piece of mind that my data is doubleplus super safe.
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I've been using a DNS-321 for a while now, and it's time to move up to something more. Is there a reason the Netgear Readynas NV+ isn't mentioned here? It's diskless, expandable, and seems cheap enough. I'd be using it mainly for home media storage, watching stuff over UPnP on PS3, photos, and music. The expandable RAID is really attractive to me, as I don't like the idea of upgrading 4 drives at a time when it's ready to move up. I'd only be using it for home via SMB access and would likely leave it passsword-less. Is there a better device that offers similar functionality? I don't want to build a nas PC for a couple reasons, namely complexity, size and power draw. edit: I had been looking at HP's mediasmart WHS boxes, but since they got rid of the drive expander feature, I've lost interest.
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Does anyone here that uses ZFS also use an SSD as a cache drive? Frys right now has a deal for this Corsair Nova 32gb SSD for $60 after rebate, and I'm debating picking one up to start using for caching purposes. I'm just curious if the size or speed of the drive makes that much of a difference (and if so, if this 32GB drive is good enough), or if it's mainly just the instantaneous seek time that's the biggest boost.
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tunah posted:Thanks. I added another drive and the rebuild went fine. I have heard pretty much all modern HDDs through my line of work. Yea the Seagates are a bit odd with their clicking which seems to take place at idle when first turned on and at random times. Lots of em do it without showing problems in other areas. Are you seeing excessive load counts or anything abnormal in the SMART data?
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dietcokefiend posted:I have heard pretty much all modern HDDs through my line of work. Yea the Seagates are a bit odd with their clicking which seems to take place at idle when first turned on and at random times. Lots of em do it without showing problems in other areas. I took screenshots of the 3 Seagate disks: ![]() ![]() ![]() They all look pretty much the same to me, do you see anything strange? Mongolian Queef fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Mar 26, 2011 |
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Civil posted:I've been using a DNS-321 for a while now, and it's time to move up to something more. Is there a reason the Netgear Readynas NV+ isn't mentioned here? It's diskless, expandable, and seems cheap enough. I'd be using it mainly for home media storage, watching stuff over UPnP on PS3, photos, and music. The expandable RAID is really attractive to me, as I don't like the idea of upgrading 4 drives at a time when it's ready to move up. I'd definitely recommend a synology unit. There is a 4 disk model, the DS411J that isn't much more than the price of the readynas. I have a 5 disk synology and the OS is top notch. My understanding is that it is the same OS for all of their units. It does also allow you to run their version of a hybrid raid, for different sized drives. I can't speak to how well that setup works, as I am running raid 6. However I'd definitely trust them more than any of the other NAS companies I have come across.
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tunah posted:I took screenshots of the 3 Seagate disks: I could have sworn that the LP kept count of the load cycles... guess not. This is the first-gen LP I have in service in my dad's NAS.
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dietcokefiend posted:I could have sworn that the LP kept count of the load cycles... guess not. This is the first-gen LP I have in service in my dad's NAS. Thanks for checking. Those values seem to be pretty normal then, unless the drive you posted is also dying.
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tunah posted:Thanks for checking. Those values seem to be pretty normal then, unless the drive you posted is also dying. ![]() ![]()
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So here's my situation: Solaris 11, root pool is a single drive, c8t1d0s0. I have an identical drive, which is the root drive of my previous install, which is also c8t1d0s0. Without noticing this, I attacked a file to the old root pool as a mirror, then detached the physical drive. Now I want to attach it to my current root pool, but I now have no idea what device to use. Would a reboot clear up this device confusion?
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FISHMANPET posted:So here's my situation: I'm not 100% sure, but I can tell you that Solaris does not forget controller assignments (it will keep incrementing controller numbers rather than re-use them). I saw a few posts on the mailing lists about clearing a certain /tmp file (or creating one in /) that should have forced a "device reconfiguration" of sorts, but didn't work for me. (I switched HBAs so many times that my drives are on c15 and c16).
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movax posted:I'm not 100% sure, but I can tell you that Solaris does not forget controller assignments (it will keep incrementing controller numbers rather than re-use them). I saw a few posts on the mailing lists about clearing a certain /tmp file (or creating one in /) that should have forced a "device reconfiguration" of sorts, but didn't work for me. (I switched HBAs so many times that my drives are on c15 and c16). It turns out all I had to was run 'sudo zpool status rpool' and it correctly figured out that the device was actually c8t0d0s0 (originally it wasn't even showing the slice). Which reminded me that root pools are different, blah blah blah, now all is well.
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Civil posted:I've been using a DNS-321 for a while now, and it's time to move up to something more. Keep the 321, switch it to JBOD, and use it as a backup target. I have one out on the rack in my garage with two 1TBs in JBOD. As you well know it's not the fastest thing out there, but it does the job for overnight backup dumps. I use it for W7 and 2008R2 system image backup, as well as an rsync target for certain data on my desktop RAID-1 array that isn't critical if I lose it, but would rather have a backup. You could even get shell on the unit and script it to pull backups from your planned future NAS.
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dietcokefiend posted:
The Western Digital drive I added a couple of days ago is now reporting read errors, after I added a fifth drive to expand the volume ![]()
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At some point soon-ish, I'd like to replace the 4x500gb drives in my HTPC with larger drives, and move the old drives into a NAS for general backup purposes. The Synology devices look really nice, but I'm curious about the difference between the 411J and the 411+? Is it purely the faster processor and the eSata port? Trying to decide if that is worth the extra 200 dollars
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