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Thermopyle posted:You sure about this? My Googlin' leads me to believe you need to flash it for IT mode... Whoops, you're right.
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For what it's worth, flashing is really easy.
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FISHMANPET posted:For what it's worth, flashing is really easy. Yeah, I had to do it for my current M1015, and my previous LSI card whose model I can't remember. The hard part is dragging a monitor and keyboard out to the server to do it. edit: I've been doing some more reading and from what I'm looking at you don't need to flash anything on 9240-8i cards like the M1015 if you're running Linux, as the 9240-8i doesn't need an IT mode because it just passes drives right through to the OS if you don't configure them as part of a RAID array. The reason people flash them is to flash the 9211-8i firmware which has greater compatibility with non-Linux operating systems...and on the 9211-8i firmware you do need the IT mode. Thermopyle fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Apr 14, 2014 |
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I come to you with a warning: Don't trust that piece of shit called Bitlocker Drive Encryption. My box did blue screen thanks to some unrelated experiments, and for some reason it took Bitlocker with it and sent it into some limbo state from which it didn't seem to have a proper failure mode for. Every so much disk IO, it just crashed the system with the oh so informative BITLOCKER_FATAL_ERROR. It took about three hours and around 20 BSODs to get my relevant data back (interestingly, it managed to track progress across BSODs), which made me almost become religious. Given how stable NTFS is, as well as their newer toys like Storage Spaces and ReFS, I'm surprised Bitlocker is such a clusterfuck. Up until now, I'd have expected it to go in sort of a RAID-style failure mode, where all IO is blocked and the user informed about the issue. But no, lets bluescreen instead. Well, at least it finally made me use that fancy drive bay in my case... ![]()
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That's a case for a discerning computer janitor.
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Combat Pretzel posted:I come to you with a warning: Don't trust that piece of shit called Bitlocker Drive Encryption. If you are ever using encryption you should have good backups.
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At least I had recovery keys stored off-computer in multiple places. Yeah, I know about backups, I keep telling people about it whenever they complain about their hard disk going tits up. But you know how it is, the shoemaker's son always goes barefoot. ![]() Still, the complaint is that Bitlocker gets knocked over so easily. Which makes even less sense, given that all data decrypted perfectly (the volume was thin provisioned, so there weren't any broken blocks in free space). So I don't get why it suddenly felt a reason to BSOD over and over.
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Don Lapre posted:If you are ever using a computer you should have good backups. fixed. Combat Pretzel get it together, man.
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Is there a better cost-to-quality ratio than setting up an HP N54L with XPEnology? I'm on a budget, so I'm thinking I'm going to wait until I can find an N54L on sale (I hear they're often on sale for ~$229 at Newegg).
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Thermopyle posted:LSI 9220-8i vs 9240-8i
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QPZIL posted:Is there a better cost-to-quality ratio than setting up an HP N54L with XPEnology? I'm on a budget, so I'm thinking I'm going to wait until I can find an N54L on sale (I hear they're often on sale for ~$229 at Newegg). As someone who runs this exact setup, it works so well I can't imagine beating it(are we still doing phrasing?) The shitty little Turion in there will even re-encode most videos on the system down to iPhone size and stream them properly. It's really groovy once you get it running.
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Newegg has the 3TB Seagate NAS drives for $115 today. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-_-22178392-L0B
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QPZIL posted:Is there a better cost-to-quality ratio than setting up an HP N54L with XPEnology? I'm on a budget, so I'm thinking I'm going to wait until I can find an N54L on sale (I hear they're often on sale for ~$229 at Newegg). I like mine a lot. Set an alert on Slickdeals if you want to get it for under $250 after rebate. Seems to pop up about once a month, but Newegg's rebate pricing makes using price trackers difficult. (And they killed off Camelegg's data access.) In case anyone else didn't notice, there's a full USB port inside the case that makes an awesome place for an Xpenology boot stick. eddiewalker fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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eddiewalker posted:I like mine a lot. Set an alert on Slickdeals if you want to get it for under $250 after rebate. Seems to pop up about once a month, but Newegg's rebate pricing makes using price trackers difficult. (And they killed off Camelegg's data access.) I hadn't even heard of it, but based on this I checked local prices (which are typically 30% above US prices) - <$250 delivered as it was 40% off ![]()
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D. Ebdrup posted:The 9240-8i is just the 9220-8i with RAID 5 and 50 which the M1000 Advanced Feature key gives the 9220-8i (I believe the 9240-8i comes with the M1000 key soldered on) - you still need to flash to to the IT firmware to get SATA Passthrough, which enables NCQ along with OS-level control over the write cache and other things. Are you sure about this? I've read multiple posts on the internets that say you do not need to do this as the 9240/9220 automatically do passthrough for drives not in a card-managed array, and the only reason to flash the IT firmware is to make it run with the more stable 9211 drivers on non-Linux operating systems. For example: quote:There is no "IT Mode" for the native M1015 or 9240 drivers. It simply is not needed. The reason people wanted the IT load when running as a 9211 is because the 9211 doesn't really do single disk passthrough correctly - it builds the disk as a single-drive raid 0, which puts nasty little headers on the disk and mucks up your ability to share disks directly with other systems. The 9240 firmware does not doe this - any drive not part of a raid is just passed through directly as a single drive - and no special 'IT mode' driver is necessary. I mean, I don't want to just say you're wrong, but I haven't found anyone citing any official LSI documentation on this one way or the other. Everybody just citing each other without any other evidence one way or the other.
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Welp, found a good deal on an N54L so it's being delivered tomorrow. My first thought was to install ESXi on it so that I could run XPEnology on one VM for my storage needs, and then have another VM for a download server. But... would it make more sense to just install Ubuntu Server or something and use ZFS and share via CIFS or something, instead of having a dedicated NAS OS?
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QPZIL posted:Welp, found a good deal on an N54L so it's being delivered tomorrow. What do you mean by download server? There are synology packages that can automate most kinds of downloads.
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QPZIL posted:Welp, found a good deal on an N54L so it's being delivered tomorrow. What does your "download server" do that xpenology can't do on its own?
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eddiewalker posted:What do you mean by download server? There are synology packages that can automate most kinds of downloads. Sickbeard, Couchpotato, Headphones, SABNZBD, and Transmission. If Synology can do all of that, then great!
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Also you're going to need more than 2GB of RAM if you're planning that. edit: also, it wasn't entirely clear to me because I was mostly asleep while setting it up, but xpenology runs from a USB stick that you leave in the machine, but it puts some system partitions on the spindle drives. If the USB dies, you can just make another and boot again, apparently. I kept thinking it was doing an install TO the hard drives and was then no longer required. I am also dumb sometimes.
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AlternateAccount posted:Also you're going to need more than 2GB of RAM if you're planning that. Well, yeah, that's the plan.
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QPZIL posted:Sickbeard, Couchpotato, Headphones, SABNZBD, and Transmission. If Synology can do all of that, then great! e: That means yes to all. Flipperwaldt fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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QPZIL posted:Sickbeard, Couchpotato, Headphones, SABNZBD, and Transmission. If Synology can do all of that, then great! AlternateAccount posted:Also you're going to need more than 2GB of RAM if you're planning that. I've at one point run all of those on my Synology 211j which has a horrible 1.2GHz ARM CPU, and a whopping 128MB(!) RAM. It was slow, but it worked - so I don't think this "real" computer will have trouble at all ![]()
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AlternateAccount posted:Also you're going to need more than 2GB of RAM if you're planning that. All that plus Plex with lots of transcoding, 2gb of ram seems to be running fine. I've never seen more that 60% utilization. Try it before you buy more.
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eddiewalker posted:All that plus Plex with lots of transcoding, 2gb of ram seems to be running fine. I've never seen more that 60% utilization. Any DDR3 RAM works for this, right - it's not SO-DIMM? I have a stick of 4GB RAM, can I just stick that in there, or do I have to replace the one that's already there? (That was a general question, not to you specifically - since you're indicating that you're running the default 2GB ![]()
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dorkanoid posted:Any DDR3 RAM works for this, right - it's not SO-DIMM? I have a stick of 4GB RAM, can I just stick that in there, or do I have to replace the one that's already there? General info including ram: http://homeservershow.com/forums/in...hardware-links/ It ships with ECC if that matters to you.
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Flipperwaldt posted:http://www.synocommunity.com/packages Wow. How can I get this on my Xpenology rig?
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eightysixed posted:Wow. How can I get this on my Xpenology rig? http://www.synocommunity.com/faq
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Oh. I didn't think I would be able to use the official packages.synocommunity.com pkg, I thout it would be something directly related/supplied by the Xpenology community. Well that's easy enough. Awesome ![]()
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eightysixed posted:Oh. I didn't think I would be able to use the official packages.synocommunity.com pkg, I thout it would be something directly related/supplied by the Xpenology community. Well that's easy enough. Awesome Xpenology units are effectively Synology units when it comes to software.
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Don Lapre posted:Xpenology units are effectively Synology units when it comes to software. That's interesting. I'm suprised Synology isnt cracking down on them or something.
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Any recommendations on backup? I've been with Crashplan for a few years, but that was when I was on super-fast internet in a big city and could spend the time and bandwidth to do all my backups over the interwebs. I've since moved to a place where only DSL is available. With bandwidth caps. So I've broken down and purchased a portable 4TB drive to do offsite backups on to, but still have ~20gig or so that I'd like to have online backups cover. Is Crashplan still the recommended software and service or is there another option? Also, before we go down this road: Backup means versions and revisions. Dropbox and Google drive are not backup.
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FunOne posted:Also, before we go down this road: Backup means versions and revisions. Dropbox and Google drive are not backup. And an external harddrive sitting on your desk is also not an "offsite" backup solution before we go back down that road, too ![]()
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Crashplan will literally send you a hard drive to back up your stuff to.
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FunOne posted:Any recommendations on backup? Pretty sure you can send Crashplan a harddrive for initial seeding, and do you really have enough data change to make uploading impractical? If you do, I guess get a couple of HDDs and a safe deposit box at the bank. Swap them out regularly so that you have one at home and one at the bank. You won't always be 100% up to date but you'll be a lot closer than if your only backup is on your desk when your PC catches fire.
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ConfusedUs posted:Pretty sure you can send Crashplan a harddrive for initial seeding...
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Thermopyle posted:Are you sure about this? I've read multiple posts on the internets that say you do not need to do this as the 9240/9220 automatically do passthrough for drives not in a card-managed array, and the only reason to flash the IT firmware is to make it run with the more stable 9211 drivers on non-Linux operating systems. For example: However, it's all theoretical and can be solved right soon: if you buy a M1015 or 9240-i8, you can check yourself by first creating a pool in ZFS without flashing the firmware and doing bonnie++ benchmarks, then destroying that pool, flashing the card, and recreating the pool, then doing bonnie++ benchmarks. Either way, you get a working pool with a HBA and we find the answer with some numbers to prove it, rather than just theories from forum posters. D. Ebdrup fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Apr 16, 2014 |
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eightysixed posted:And an external harddrive sitting on your desk is also not an "offsite" backup solution before we go back down that road, too It is if I take it and lock it at my office. Rate of change is enough to make uploading over DSL impractical. Hell, just one trip out with the camera is enough to tie up my line for days. That same amount can be backed up to the portable over lunch and safely back off site within an hour. Almost anything that impacts me and the drive would be catastrophic enough to not worry about backups. For those edge cases I'll be getting another in a month or so in order to do swaps. I was asking about software for both local and cloud backups.
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I'm not sure what the problem here is? You can use CrashPlan to backup to an external drive or any other computer on your local network (as well as their servers) so you don't need to purchase any other software to accomplish what you are trying to do.
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dox posted:I'm not sure what the problem here is? You can use CrashPlan to backup to an external drive or any other computer on your local network (as well as their servers) so you don't need to purchase any other software to accomplish what you are trying to do. I asked if it was still the best solution for my use case. It has limited file version and pruning support, doesn't really support multiple backup volumes, doesn't verify backups as far as I can tell, etc. So, is Crashplan still the best solution or is there something else that would better fit?
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