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Combat Pretzel posted:When exactly did Western Digital buy Hitachi's storage division?!
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That sucks. So now it's just Toshiba, Western Digital, and Seagate making all hard drives? I just now found out that Samsung sold out to Seagate.
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Civil posted:That sucks. So now it's just Toshiba, Western Digital, and Seagate making all hard drives? ![]() Also this chart is somewhat misleading how it has Hitachi 3.5" going to Toshiba and 2.5" going to WD. Toshiba just ended up with Hitachi's 3.5" media manufacturing; not the drives themselves. Star War Sex Parrot fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Nov 5, 2013 |
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To make it even more confusing, WD/HGST makes Hitachi and IBM branded drives for enterprise level stuff. We've got a SAN downstairs filled with HGST, Hitachi, and IBM drives that are THE EXACT SAME MODEL.
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So I've been having a bit of fun tearing apart the drives that come out of my NAS once they fail - since aside from the three Reds, they're all long out of warranty (and have a shitton of hours). I wonder why this Samsung HD154UI was making a horrible sound! ![]() ![]() ![]() The odd thing to me is that unlike the old 500GB WD Blue I pulled apart ages ago, there doesn't seem to be any possible position for the heads to actually come off of the discs altogether. The WD had a little plastic piece to ramp the heads on/off the outside of the discs, but it looks like in this the parking position is up against the center of the spindle. Oh well; I still have at least one spare 1.5TB left, and this drive's siblings (I have one with a S/N right next to this one, and a few within 20) keep chugging along.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Also this chart is somewhat misleading how it has Hitachi 3.5" going to Toshiba and 2.5" going to WD. Toshiba just ended up with Hitachi's 3.5" media manufacturing; not the drives themselves. Pudgygiant posted:To make it even more confusing, WD/HGST makes Hitachi and IBM branded drives for enterprise level stuff. We've got a SAN downstairs filled with HGST, Hitachi, and IBM drives that are THE EXACT SAME MODEL. phongn fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Nov 5, 2013 |
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IOwnCalculus posted:The odd thing to me is that unlike the old 500GB WD Blue I pulled apart ages ago, there doesn't seem to be any possible position for the heads to actually come off of the discs altogether. The WD had a little plastic piece to ramp the heads on/off the outside of the discs, but it looks like in this the parking position is up against the center of the spindle.
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Dell SAS 6/iR controller with two SATA drives in a RAID-1. If I pull one of the drives, can I plug it into another computer and read the data like it was a normal hard drive?
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Farmer Crack-Ass posted:Dell SAS 6/iR controller with two SATA drives in a RAID-1. If I pull one of the drives, can I plug it into another computer and read the data like it was a normal hard drive? Yup, as long as the OS you're plugging into can mount whatever file system is on the drive. grizzlepants fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Nov 5, 2013 |
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Maybe this is a silly question, but wouldn't a helium-sealed HDD, with all the electronics involved, be liable to explode into a fireball?
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Gozinbulx posted:Maybe this is a silly question, but wouldn't a helium-sealed HDD, with all the electronics involved, be liable to explode into a fireball? Helium is an inert gas.
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Gozinbulx posted:Maybe this is a silly question, but wouldn't a helium-sealed HDD, with all the electronics involved, be liable to explode into a fireball? You're thinking of Hydrogen.
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Stupid naturally safe helium.
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Gozinbulx posted:Maybe this is a silly question, but wouldn't a helium-sealed HDD, with all the electronics involved, be liable to explode into a fireball? No, but if you aren't careful in certain conditions your hard drive can float off of your desk and bounce into the ceiling.
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Agrikk posted:No, but if you aren't careful in certain conditions your hard drive can float off of your desk and bounce into the ceiling. How many hard drives would it take to lift your whole PC off the table?
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Why not use a low vacuum rather than helium? Wouldn't no gas have less friction than an ideal gas? SopWATh fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Nov 6, 2013 |
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I believe the heads ride on a cushion of air so a vacuum would prove problematic.
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Galler posted:I believe the heads ride on a cushion of air so a vacuum would prove problematic.
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I have nitrogen in my tires
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SopWATh posted:Why not use a low vacuum rather than helium? Wouldn't no gas have less friction than an ideal gas? A vacuum will eventually be gone due to low pressure and leaks, sucking air in. Then you got the mess with a drive not running in its intended state. Also, make sure you don't store any audio data on your helium filled disk.
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yomisei posted:Also, make sure you don't store any audio data on your helium filled disk. Because during playback, your death metal growls will be converted to chipmunk-style squeaks. It's because of the helium, you see... ![]()
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yomisei posted:A vacuum will eventually be gone due to low pressure and leaks, sucking air in. Then you got the mess with a drive not running in its intended state. No. The reason that vacuum does not make was already stated. Furthermore, we have had the ability to create long-lasting vacuum seals for over a hundred years. There are vacuum apparatus from the 1800s that are still under vacuum today. To go even further, there would be no convective heat transfer in a hypothetical vacuum-sealed hard disk, which would lead to more complications that I wouldn't begin to speculate on. Bob Morales posted:I have nitrogen in my tires Everybody has about 80% nitrogen in their tires except the suckers who pay extra for higher purity for some marketing-defined reasons.
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DNova posted:No. The reason that vacuum does not make was already stated. Furthermore, we have had the ability to create long-lasting vacuum seals for over a hundred years. There are vacuum apparatus from the 1800s that are still under vacuum today. Some people are joking
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Bob Morales posted:Some people are joking I'm imaging you saying this while looking shamefully at your $6.95 nitrogen tire fill receipt.
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I've got three spare WD Green drives of various sizes and a spare computer. Obviously not the best setup for a RAID type system, and I'm fine with just having single drives with no redundancy. That said, what are my options for running an OS off of a USB stick? I think I can run something like FreeNAS with each of those drives being their own zpool, but is there a better option out there for this usecase?
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What's the best deal (hopefully in Canada) to get about 6TB of storage in a device that a Mac or PC can connect to - I suppose RAID as it seems to be a better option if something goes wrong - but it sounds too complicated, even after reading the OP and the last 4-5 pages. Any help would be great.
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Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:What's the best deal (hopefully in Canada) to get about 6TB of storage in a device that a Mac or PC can connect to - I suppose RAID as it seems to be a better option if something goes wrong - but it sounds too complicated, even after reading the OP and the last 4-5 pages. http://www.amazon.ca/Synology-DS212.../dp/B005YW7OLM/ x1 http://www.amazon.ca/Western-Digita.../dp/B008JJLW4M/ x2 I also assumed that by 6TB you meant 3TB redundant.
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Civil posted:I assume you don't have spare hardware laying around and you don't want anything messy. Hey thanks man I'm going to bookmark those pages and buy in the next few months. Easy to set up? I just want it hooked up to my PC 90% of the time, but also use it as a a Time Machine backup for my wife's MacBook Air.
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Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:Hey thanks man I'm going to bookmark those pages and buy in the next few months. Easy to set up? I just want it hooked up to my PC 90% of the time, but also use it as a a Time Machine backup for my wife's MacBook Air. Dead simple setup. Tons of features if you want it, but it's rock solid as a server. I use mine with iOS (just media), Android, Mac, and Windows. http://www.synology.com/us/solution...ime_machine.php
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Synology is probably the best for consumer NAS stuff if you don't want to roll your own. I've setup a few units for friends and family, the feature set for the price is really good and the hardware itself is usually very stable and performs more than adequately. I hear good things about their tech support too.
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I have four 5-bay Synologies at work and they are fine except for when you reboot or power one off and you need to waiitn24 hrs for it to check the disks
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Can anyone recommend a couple of decent PCIe NICs that work well with FreeNAS and won't cost an arm and a leg? I'm looking for one WiFi and one Ethernet, but none of the NICs I have work with it.
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Thank all of you very much for spending the time to help. It seems like a clear winner! Thanks
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stray posted:Can anyone recommend a couple of decent PCIe NICs that work well with FreeNAS and won't cost an arm and a leg? I'm looking for one WiFi and one Ethernet, but none of the NICs I have work with it.
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stray posted:Can anyone recommend a couple of decent PCIe NICs that work well with FreeNAS and won't cost an arm and a leg? I'm looking for one WiFi and one Ethernet, but none of the NICs I have work with it. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...0?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I have 5 of those and they all work amazing. You can request the low profile brackets ($10 extra) if you order from that AMTECH place.
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kalicki posted:I've got three spare WD Green drives of various sizes and a spare computer. Obviously not the best setup for a RAID type system, and I'm fine with just having single drives with no redundancy. You can do it with NexentaStor community edition and Openfiler. I hear you can actually do it with Windows Server, but you have to do a bunch of wack shit to make it work.
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G-Prime posted:You're thinking of Hydrogen. Also, if it was a pure hydrogen environment, wouldn't it be unable to combust in the absence of oxygen?
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Farmer Crack-Ass posted:Also, if it was a pure hydrogen environment, wouldn't it be unable to combust in the absence of oxygen? Correct. Which means the possibility of danger is negligible, unless the seal on the drive breaks. Even then it's questionable. Hydrogen spontaneously combusts when mixed with air at 500 deg C. Of course, a spark from the power supply could set it off, but if your power supply is throwing sparks, you've got much bigger concerns than your hard drive.
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I think the bigger concern is still the safe, cheap manufacture of the drives themselves on top of the considerations for consumers.
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Well, and how much air volume is there in a hard drive? Even if it ignited I doubt it would be a big explosion.
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