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IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





I can't be the only one who has just slapped a SSD wherever it will fit / won't fall into a fan, right?

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006


IOwnCalculus posted:

I can't be the only one who has just slapped a SSD wherever it will fit / won't fall into a fan, right?

Nope. I am always surprised when I tilt my case and hear it crash around inside then have to go fish it out.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004



3M command strips were practically made for mounting SSDs

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT


Enos Cabell posted:

3M command strips were practically made for mounting SSDs

This is whats up. Unless you want to drill/fabricate something (watch out for metal shavings).

Tons of people on the interwebs have shoved multiple extra drives into these boxes.

ChiralCondensate
Nov 13, 2007

what is that man doing to his colour palette?


Grimey Drawer

Enos Cabell posted:

Scotch tape was practically made for mounting SSDs

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

I use zip ties (use them everywhere) but command strips is a cool idea.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





H110Hawk posted:

Nope. I am always surprised when I tilt my case and hear it crash around inside then have to go fish it out.

I mean, they weigh fuckall and there's no moving parts inside. None of my boxes get moved on a regular basis and the cables are stiff enough to pretty much keep them in whatever crevice I wedge them into.

I think my desktop is the only time (outside of a laptop) where I've actually bothered to screw in a SSD at all, and even then it's quarter-assed because my case has no 2.5" bays. And if I ever replace that SSD, it's going to be with a M.2 NVMe drive.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007

Bote McBoteface. so what


priznat posted:

Hm, I would like the extra power of a Xeon D but those APUs are nice. Since converting my 2500K over to unraid 24/7 duties I have noticed a bit of a jump in my electric bill and would be nice to get something lower powered.

I underclocked it but haven’t kill-a-watt’d it yet (need to find mine) to see how much it draws. Could be something else drawing power too but it’s the one major change from last year I can think of (usage is 25% more than last year).

Are you comparing your power usage by month year-to-year? Because if you're looking at data for the past few months compared to last year, you may just be using more power for heating. I dunno where you live, but here it's been cold as fuck and is projected to stay below freezing for over a week, so I have electric heaters that are probably working overtime.

Your CPU is a 95 W part but is presumably not working at 100% capacity 24/7, and even then your entire system is probably drawing <150 W (just a guess, based on measurements of my own PCs) which would probably account for less than 25% of your previous draw without having that system on 24/7.

IOwnCalculus posted:

I can't be the only one who has just slapped a SSD wherever it will fit / won't fall into a fan, right?

Same. If they need to be fastened then sure, strips, ties, whatever, but if I can just leave SSDs in there I've done it. Often I've crammed them in free 3.5" or 5.25" bays (although you can actually get cheap ~$10 bay adapters that will fit 2x2.5" drives in a 3.5" bay or 4x2.5" in a 5.25".) On my SFF desktop, it has a bracket that can mount a 2.5" drive side-by-side next to a 3.5" one, and because of that there's extra height where it can fit another 2.5" on top of the existing one, just without any fasteners, so a SSD is perfect for that because it doesn't need to be mounted rigidly. I could theoretically put a 2.5" HDD fastened to the bracket (as it should be) and an SSD sandwiched on top of that although I happen to have 2x SSDs in there instead.

Atomizer fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jan 24, 2019

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Atomizer posted:

Are you comparing your power usage by month year-to-year? Because if you're looking at data for the past few months compared to last year, you may just be using more power for heating. I dunno where you live, but here it's been cold as fuck and is projected to stay below freezing for over a week, so I have electric heaters that are probably working overtime.

Your CPU is a 95 W part but is presumably not working at 100% capacity 24/7, and even then your entire system is probably drawing <150 W (just a guess, based on measurements of my own PCs) which would probably account for less than 25% of your previous draw without having that system on 24/7.

Yeah it’s definitely not the whole chunk of the increase but I didn’t have it running last year. We’re using gas heat here and it has actually been a much warmer winter than usual here (Pacific Northwest) and nothing like the icebox in the rest of the country Hasn’t even snowed here at all and probably won’t, probably because I finally got around to buying snow tires.

Even if the system was drawing the full extra 25% it would probably take over a decade of running to justify the cost of an upgrade anyway. Just wanna get something new and cool..

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006


IOwnCalculus posted:

I mean, they weigh fuckall and there's no moving parts inside. None of my boxes get moved on a regular basis and the cables are stiff enough to pretty much keep them in whatever crevice I wedge them into.

I think my desktop is the only time (outside of a laptop) where I've actually bothered to screw in a SSD at all, and even then it's quarter-assed because my case has no 2.5" bays. And if I ever replace that SSD, it's going to be with a M.2 NVMe drive.

My desktop is the only machine I really built by hand (because I hate it so much.) it technically has a 2.5" bay but it's in the dumbest spot where you can only sorta get to it so it hangs semi suspended by its sata and power cord in a 5.25" bay. Not flat, not affixed.

I don't exactly move it often, maybe annually to clean the dust screen.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





DS4243 trip report so far:

Bought a DS4243 locally on Craigslist. Came with two power supplies, two IOM6 controllers (technically makes it a DS4246 I guess?) and 24 trays with removable SAS interposers. Seemed to power up fine with the IOM6 controllers, but since QSFP-8088 cables are rare and expensive, and QSFP HBAs are almost as rare and expensive, I bought a couple of HB-SBB2-E601-COMP controllers to stick in it and use regular 8088 cabling. Finally got them in tonight.

It connected just fine right away, but wasn't showing any disks. Noticed that it throws some "0x1" errors if both controllers are plugged in, but that wasn't the issue. Turns out that with these controllers in it at all, if only one power supply is actually running, it won't spin the disks. Plugged in the other power supply and now lsscsi says:

pre:
[7:0:6:0]    enclosu NETAPP   DS424-E6EBD      221a  -
[7:0:7:0]    disk    ATA      WDC WD30EFRX-68E 0A80  /dev/sde
[7:0:8:0]    disk    ATA      WDC WD30EFRX-68E 0A82  /dev/sdf
[7:0:9:0]    disk    ATA      WDC WD100EMAZ-00 0A83  /dev/sdg
[7:0:10:0]   disk    ATA      WDC WD30EFRX-68E 0A82  /dev/sdh
[7:0:11:0]   disk    ATA      WDC WD30EFRX-68E 0A82  /dev/sdi
[7:0:12:0]   disk    ATA      WDC WD30EFRX-68E 0A80  /dev/sdj
[7:0:13:0]   disk    ATA      WDC WD100EMAZ-00 0A83  /dev/sdk
[7:0:14:0]   disk    ATA      WDC WD100EMAZ-00 0A83  /dev/sdl
[7:0:15:0]   disk    ATA      WDC WD100EMAZ-00 0A83  /dev/sdm
[7:0:16:0]   disk    ATA      WDC WD30EFRX-68E 0A82  /dev/sdn
[7:0:17:0]   disk    ATA      WDC WD30EFRX-68E 0A82  /dev/sdo
[7:0:18:0]   disk    ATA      WDC WD30EFRX-68E 0A82  /dev/sdp
[7:0:19:0]   disk    ATA      WDC WD30EFRX-68E 0A80  /dev/sdq
I haven't tried plugging the other controller back in yet, but seeing as SATA disks are single-pathed and I'm not going to run multiple SAS cables between these boxes, I'd call this successful. Now I just need to haul this to where my main server is and actually hook it up.

Also, the interposers are indeed pointless unless you want to mix SAS and SATA in the same array. They block most of the SMART attributes since they are now what is responding to smartctl instead of the drive.

eames
May 9, 2009



priznat posted:

Yeah it’s definitely not the whole chunk of the increase but I didn’t have it running last year. We’re using gas heat here and it has actually been a much warmer winter than usual here (Pacific Northwest) and nothing like the icebox in the rest of the country Hasn’t even snowed here at all and probably won’t, probably because I finally got around to buying snow tires.

Even if the system was drawing the full extra 25% it would probably take over a decade of running to justify the cost of an upgrade anyway. Just wanna get something new and cool..

If you care a lot about power consumption then Unraid isn’t ideal. Their disk spindown features are nice on paper but the OS itself is not (and can’t be) optimized for power consumption. Tools like powertop are completely missing. I did the test on my old machine and found that Unraid idles at 32W with disks spun down while Ubuntu LTS idles at 17W with disks spun down.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 4 days!


I'm a few days away from ordering a Synology and I need something that'll stream x.265 files via Plex. Is the DS218j gonna be able to handle this workload of this, or do I need the DS218+? I'm seeing conflicting/confusing information.

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT


Transcode or direct play?

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 4 days!


Moey posted:

Transcode or direct play?
i'm pretty fresh to this stuff, but I assume I should prefer direct play to reduce buffering and CPU usage, especially on something CPU-limited like a NAS. Based on what I've read, Plex does direct play on x.264 for 1080p and under and x.265 for 4k. I'm hoping to play 1080p and 720p stuff in x.265. Would I always have to transcode for that? If so, would the extra power of the DS218+ help? I'll be playing the videos on a Samsung MU6300-series TV, if it matters.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Oven Wrangler

TenementFunster posted:

i'm pretty fresh to this stuff, but I assume I should prefer direct play to reduce buffering and CPU usage, especially on something CPU-limited like a NAS. Based on what I've read, Plex does direct play on x.264 for 1080p and under and x.265 for 4k. I'm hoping to play 1080p and 720p stuff in x.265. Would I always have to transcode for that? If so, would the extra power of the DS218+ help? I'll be playing the videos on a Samsung MU6300-series TV, if it matters.

Not sure if you've looked at it or not, but you should consider getting the lower-end Synology and a Shield TV to go with it. Hook that up to your TV and use that to both play the media locally at the TV and act as your Plex server if you're streaming somewhere else. You'll need a USB drive to go with it as they've removed the hard drive option and you'll need it for cache space, but otherwise it'd be a lot more robust than just using a NAS and your TV.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006


TenementFunster posted:

i'm pretty fresh to this stuff, but I assume I should prefer direct play to reduce buffering and CPU usage, especially on something CPU-limited like a NAS. Based on what I've read, Plex does direct play on x.264 for 1080p and under and x.265 for 4k. I'm hoping to play 1080p and 720p stuff in x.265. Would I always have to transcode for that? If so, would the extra power of the DS218+ help? I'll be playing the videos on a Samsung MU6300-series TV, if it matters.

Your client (the TV, the thing "displaying" the content) is what matters for directplay vs transcode. You can test this out right now with a h265 file prior to buying to see if you need the horsepower, though as another person said the Shield is a pretty promising device. If you don't have a TiVo I would go that route.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 4 days!


yikes, I was hoping not to buy Yet Another Thing, since running Plex through the app on my TV makes things less complicated for the girlfriend/guests. I'll test it out streaming a x.265 from my desktop to the TV via Plex and hope that works.

If I already have a 8tb external HDD, could I hook that up to the Shield (plus a USB drive for cache) and forgo the separate NAS?

TenementFunster fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Jan 26, 2019

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Oven Wrangler

TenementFunster posted:

yikes, I was hoping not to buy Yet Another Thing, since running Plex through the app on my TV makes things less complicated for the girlfriend/guests. I'll test it out streaming a x.265 from my desktop to the TV via Plex and hope that works.

If I already have a 8tb external HDD, could I hook that up to the Shield (plus a USB drive for cache) and forgo the separate NAS?

Yeah, you'll be able to tell from the desktop whether or not your TV is direct playing things. But you're going to run into issues where the TV can't play certain formats and encodes, especially over time. Yes, you can hook the external HDD up.

The only thing I'd say makes it more complicated is if you switch back and forth from cable, having to change the input. If you just use apps on the Shield TV, then just leave it on that input. Otherwise, yeah, a universal remote is in your future.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 4 days!


Internet Explorer posted:

Yeah, you'll be able to tell from the desktop whether or not your TV is direct playing things. But you're going to run into issues where the TV can't play certain formats and encodes, especially over time. Yes, you can hook the external HDD up.

The only thing I'd say makes it more complicated is if you switch back and forth from cable, having to change the input. If you just use apps on the Shield TV, then just leave it on that input. Otherwise, yeah, a universal remote is in your future.
i'm a longtime harmony guy, and first with the 550 remote back in ~2009 and now a harmony hub, but not having multiple application platforms (smart TV, shield, and future PS4) would keep things simple. currently, having one input (smart TV) is awesome, as the harmony occasionally would have problems changing inputs from PC to playstation to roku to PC that i'd have to fix. having a smart TV handle all the apps has decreased frustration big time.

i successfully streamed a 10bit x265 DD5.1 1080p video file from the plex server on my desktop to my TV without any buffering or other noticable issues. I have no clue if it was transcoding or direct playing because I honestly don't know how to tell the difference, but if the rest of my videos are in a similar or lower bitrate video format, I should be good for just a NAS, right?

I'll get the 218j now that you guys have told me the TV is the thing I have to worry about as far as transcoding/direct play goes, not the NAS itself. I just want a NAS so I don't have to run my desktop to access my media via Plex, so the 218j should do nicely. currently, I'm converting all my existing media to x265 to save HDD space. i should be done by March.

thanks for the help, guys.

TenementFunster fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Jan 26, 2019

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled


Man I have the shittiest luck with HDDs. 8TB Seagate Ironwolf I bought in early January now has 8 reallocated sectors. At least it popped up before the return period was over. So that makes 2 WD Reds and 1 Ironwolf that have been killed by the Dell T20 / more realistically just arrived busted.

Hed
Mar 31, 2004



Fun Shoe

How are your temps?

G-Prime
Apr 30, 2003

Baby, when it's love,
if it's not rough it isn't fun.


I'm currently running FreeNAS out of a Define R5, with the full 8 internal drive bays full. Debating back and forth between replacing my Define R5 with a case that has more drive bays and just putting together an 8 bay DAS box to sit side by side with it. Either way, my intent is to expand my existing pool with a second vdev of 8 drives. My biggest concern is noise, with physical space requirements being secondary, as my NAS sits in a very heavily used room in my house, and in particular it's about 3 feet from where I sit. So far, the DAS route seems to be winning out in my head, because of the convenience of not having to transplant everything between cases, and because it'll use less space and be quieter than moving to a rackmount case with a large number of bays.

Anybody got thoughts or suggestions?

On the DAS front I've been considering something like the Silverstone DS380 and more or less replicating this build. If I go with a different case for my existing build, the Norco 4224 or Supermicro 846 are at the top of my list. I realize that I'm only getting 8 bays out of the DAS and would have more capacity available with the bigger case, but I'm also only buying 8 drives to add a vdev to my pool, so the extra capacity would go unused at least for a while. My expectation is that by the time I would need to expand further, my housing situation will be different and I'll have a dedicated closet with a rack, and I'll likely be doing a fresh build anyway, because my current hardware is Haswell era, so this really isn't about futureproofing at all. I'm specifically looking to do something that will get me by for a year or two.

Edit: Further clarification above because I did a shit job of explaining.

G-Prime fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Jan 26, 2019

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled


Hed posted:

How are your temps?

Probably not the best since the thing doesn't have good cooling. Averages between 39 to 47 celsius. Drives are in two spots. One spot averages higher temps then the other (39 to 42 compared to 44 to 47). The drives in the higher temp area haven't failed til this seagate though (and I guess what was replaced before the seagate though that drive was part of the initial set of 4 WD Reds all from the same retailer and two of those came broken so probably just a matter of time for them.

necrobobsledder
Mar 21, 2005
Lay down your soul to the gods rock 'n roll

Nap Ghost

G-Prime posted:

Debating back and forth between replacing my Define R5 with a case that has more drive bays and just putting together an 8 bay DAS box to sit side by side with it. My biggest concern is noise, with physical space requirements being secondary, as my NAS sits in a very heavily used room in my house, and in particular it's about 3 feet from where I sit. So far, the DAS route seems to be winning out in my head, because of the convenience of not having to transplant everything between cases, and because it'll use less space and be quieter than moving to a rackmount case with a large number of bays.

Anybody got thoughts or suggestions?
For home NASes that aren't rackmounts, there's only so many good options for 8+ drives with trade-offs on noise and space in the end. In order of quietest to loudest it is almost exactly related to size:

  • Define R5 or Define R6
  • Node 804
  • DS380
  • NSC-800

The NSC-800 case I have is compact but with less air volume and no sound dampening, my WD Easystores are louder than the Toshiba 7200 RPM drives I had in my mid tower. The thing about a DAS is that you still will need a PSU to power the drives still, so that's more noise unless it's a silent PSU. Then there's the practical concern of needing to have your computer on to access the contents which may supersede the noise issues (I used to run everything in a single machine but waiting to reboot until wife's done watching TV was a showstopper for me so I built a standalone NAS a decade ago). Therefore, just building everything including your primary desktop in a single, large, sound dampened case is pretty optimal for noise levels unless you have few budget limitations and can run long cables to put your drives and components in a separate room.

I do have to emphasize the drives you pick matter for noise almost as much as your case. Higher RPM drives have higher frequency vibrations and can be real annoying even if the dBa metrics say roughly the same.

My pick for my next NAS setup is either the R5 or R6 and to possibly hook up a NUC and Thunderbolt extension to get a SAS controller rolling. I have a eGPU box that may be usable for this purpose already. Otherwise, some monstrosity like the Phanteks Mini XL will be substantially more practical (minus the hardship of 8 3.5" drives while keeping the dual system control module) as an all-in-one enclosure setup. NUCs are not very practical as the brains for NASes because their external connectivity to high-bandwidth devices is limited to Thunderbolt and those enclosures are so expensive it'd be far cheaper to buy another machine and silence it given the space taken up.

G-Prime
Apr 30, 2003

Baby, when it's love,
if it's not rough it isn't fun.



This is a really great and informative post, and it made me realize how unclear MY post is.

I currently have a NAS running FreeNAS out of the Define R5, with 8x8TB drives. Totally separate from my daily driver PC. I'm suggesting that what I'd want to do is expand the pool in that NAS with a second vdev consisting of 8 more drives (size TBD, probably 10TB). The options in my mind to do that are to do the DAS with an acceptably quiet power supply and fan(s) in it, or migrate to a different case that can physically hold 16-24 drives.

G-Prime fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Jan 26, 2019

necrobobsledder
Mar 21, 2005
Lay down your soul to the gods rock 'n roll

Nap Ghost

Ahhh, the data hoarding problem continues I see. Having taken some time to investigate rackmount options in a house I personally chose not to ever exceed 8 drives and to archive what I don't need often onto old drives, thereby saving a fair bit in running costs and the accompanying noise. If I had a gun to my head to do 12+ drives at home with silence I'd go with two Node 804 stacked and hook them up with HBAs that have external SAS connectors. If possible, I'd use a motherboard with 8 SATA ports onboard and use the SAS card for the remaining 8+ SATA drives. The thing about that approach is I need to investigate better how daisy chaining can work with SATA drives (I highly doubt they can support an actual daisy chain), I've only ever professionally handled SAS drives in a HA DAS situation and they're completely different from SATA drives.

The only cases I've seen that aren't rackmounts supporting 16+ 3.5" drives involve SATA backplanes like those 5-in-3 options and full tower cases that had 6+ 5.25" slots, and those backplanes are like $80+ each (I have a 4-in-3 I used with an old, cheap mid tower Antec case). I think I saw a real old Lian Li case with 3 of those suckers for 16 drives in one case. Thing is, I have yet to find a case like those in the past 8 years.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





If noise isn't a concern, Xyratex based rack mount gear is about as cheap as the cables / SAS expander alone. NetApp DS4243, Xyratex HB1235, StorSimple, Dell Compellent... all made by Xyratex and easy to swap in the Compellent SAS controller which turns it into a dumb SAS backplane.

G-Prime
Apr 30, 2003

Baby, when it's love,
if it's not rough it isn't fun.


The Node 804 is a really good choice that I hadn't considered. DS380 has hotswap bays for the drives, but those aren't necessary for my purposes in the slightest. It's even got a nice fan controller built in, which would be helpful if I go the DAS route.

I'm not opposed to a rackmount case, in general, my concern there is precisely the noise. All the good 16+ drive rackmount cases tend to have tiny, high RPM fans. I've seen some promising information around moving to quieter fans in the Supermicro 846. The Norco has a fan wall available that can do 120mm fans, but it removes the ability to conveniently mount a 2.5" drive inside, and I'm booting FreeNAS from an SSD because reasons.

I'm leaning toward the DAS option, running an HBA off of my existing NAS (all the current drives are on the motherboard's ports, which includes an LSA 9211 controller), but still wanted some community wisdom before I started making the purchases.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006



https://www.simplstor.com/index.php/petabyte

Go big or go home. Also the zerowait folks are good people.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Even swapping the Norco's original 80mm for lower-speed 80mm fans does a lot for its noise. It's theoretically possible to do the same on a Xyratex device but the fans are hardwired inside the power supplies, so you have to pop them open and do some soldering.

With that said, the DS4243, shortly after bootup, settles into a "reasonable" sound. It's not quiet but it's also not even remotely near any 1U server I've had on my desk. The tone is more "loud desk fan" than "hairdryer" or "vacuum". Louder than I would want directly in a house, but workable if you have somewhere you can lock it away.

H110Hawk posted:

https://www.simplstor.com/index.php/petabyte

Go big or go home. Also the zerowait folks are good people.

Ha, clearly running on Supermicro gear. Other way around anyway - more like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/HB-1235-12...Ds/312441641343

Which is what I would end up getting if for some reason I can't get enough room to stick that 4U Netapp in instead.

Melp
Feb 26, 2004

You know the drill.

FYI, you can make a SuperMicro 846 quiet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjyL6ZiMkI

I've picked up a second 846 to use as a JBOD/expansion shelf, working on a video for that too. Total capacity is just over 180TB.

busfahrer
Feb 9, 2012

Ceterum censeo
Carthaginem
esse delendam


Is it possible to migrate my disks from a 2-disk RAID-1 Synology to a 4-bay one while also using RAID-5 on the 4-bay, and keeping my data intact?

I found this video for migrations, but it doesn't mention RAID1->5

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Sipping harsh elixir,
the ice above us melting fast


Laserface posted:

I have a readynas RN204 with 2x WD 3tb reds in RAID1.

Lately, stuff I download to stream via plex to my Apple TV has been having artifacting/scrambled frames. Audio seems fine.

Playing the file from the nas on other devices or using other players like vlc has the same problem.

I redownloaded the same file and kept it locally on my machine and there was no issues.

I think I know the answer is yes, but one of my drives is failing, yeah? One of them is noisy on seek and sometimes the nas is slow to respond while it grinds away for like 10minutes . The disk health on the NAS shows both as fine. Overall volume health is in a warning state due to 5% free space, however this was not an issue prior.


The only thing I have changed is recently deleting a bunch of mp3s out of my library. Could this have caused some fragmentation and the video files being stored in the now free gaps cause these issues? Copying the files to my pc and playing them has the same problem.

Anyone? Trying to determine how I can confirm a disk issue - can I pull one disk out and see if it goes away?

necrobobsledder
Mar 21, 2005
Lay down your soul to the gods rock 'n roll

Nap Ghost

That video above shows why I don't want to try to quiet down a rackmount - rackmounts are a rabbit hole of hacks after hacks when you start trying to quiet them down for use in quiet living rooms and bedrooms between taping some stuff to ducting mods with 3D printers. The Norco cases (I believe the oldest 4020 in particular) have various issues with normal fans to the point where someone on the hardforums started selling fan adapters to mount more standard fans. Then there's the SE3016 that would be a good candidate for homes in theory except, again, the few fans are super annoying and you have to do some research into how to make them behave like a residential machine. Server equipment from the big OEMs is notoriously hostile to those that aren't in the ecosystem - it's almost as bad as how Apple's walled garden works. For example, I had an IBM-flashed M1015 brick the BIOS on my Intel board (the onboard program that loads wrote to a bad region and the EEPROM was ruined somehow). The same HBA nearly ruined another motherboard but I managed to use a BIOS recovery back-up tool and fixed it.

If it works out for you that's great. I have a hard time believing that there's that many folks that are trying to silence a rackmount machine in their home and that it's worth the time for most folks even into the slightly crazy datahoarder spectrum.


Laserface posted:

Anyone? Trying to determine how I can confirm a disk issue - can I pull one disk out and see if it goes away?
I don't think you're having a problem with the disk, I think you're having a low throughput issue due to crossing a threshold. 5% free is really poor and depending upon fragmentation could cause throughput to absolutely plummet. Your symptoms look similar to buffer underflows. Try to copy a large file from the machine and see what the transfer rate looks like. I had a NAS filled up that much before and it would drop all the way to like 300 KBps.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

I MEAN, TURN OFF YOURE MONITOR, MIGTH EXPLAIN YOUR BAD POSTS, HOPE THIS HELPS?!

Dehumanize yourself and face to white noise machine?

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006


IOwnCalculus posted:

Ha, clearly running on Supermicro gear.

Yeah they wouldn't lie to you if you asked. I think.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Sipping harsh elixir,
the ice above us melting fast


necrobobsledder posted:


I don't think you're having a problem with the disk, I think you're having a low throughput issue due to crossing a threshold. 5% free is really poor and depending upon fragmentation could cause throughput to absolutely plummet. Your symptoms look similar to buffer underflows. Try to copy a large file from the machine and see what the transfer rate looks like. I had a NAS filled up that much before and it would drop all the way to like 300 KBps.

Well I cleaned out a bunch of shit and ran a defrag which I didn't think was a thing in raid and it seems like it's sort of improved things. Still some glitches but nowhere near as many

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





H110Hawk posted:

Yeah they wouldn't lie to you if you asked. I think.

Some hide it better than others (Nimble, at least pre-HPE acquisition)... others just slap some stickers on it.

Nothing wrong with it either way.

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast


IOwnCalculus posted:

Some hide it better than others (Nimble, at least pre-HPE acquisition)... others just slap some stickers on it.

Nothing wrong with it either way.

ExaGrid's stuff is also clearly SuperMicro. Again, just like Nimble, there's nothing wrong with it.

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